America The Land of The Free

I was wondering when you were going to pop-up with your typical Obama-hatred. So I'm supposed to use the subjective example of your "brother in law" to deduce that this is how a majority of businesses in the US are going to act? LOL, talk about utterly moronic logic; provide me with an objective source which shows "a lot of employers" are going to follow suit, or kindly keep your anecdotes to yourself

Anyways, as I said in the 'US Primaries 2012' thread however (and as has been the case with others and their dealings with you, such as the thread on why the Tea Party was founded and its key principles), there is no point in arguing with you. Whenever there is a retort provided that completely shuts you up (which is always pretty much the case), instead of admitting to your idiocy, you just leave the thread and cowardly don't provide a reply back. Ergo, I don't wish to waste the time and effort in doing so.

I was wondering when you were going to pop-up with your typical Obama-hatred. So I'm supposed to use the subjective example of your "brother in law" to deduce that this is how a majority of businesses in the US are going to act? LOL, talk about utterly moronic logic; provide me with an objective source which shows "a lot of employers" are going to follow suit, or kindly keep your anecdotes to yourself

He's got a point. Obamacare does not provide 100% coverage or anything close to it. What it does is fine employers who don't provide it for their workers. Congress would never have passed 100% coverage funded by the federal government.

Despite polls showing that most people want it, and have for a long time. This is the problem I have with American politics, and tbf, British politics too - the public is in favour of a certain policy, but none of the major parties are, so the will of the people is ignored.

Again, not that this is relevant to the thread at hand, but since you seem to think I'm incapable of knowing the "philosophy" of martial arts, I'll just tell you that I've been training for 14 years in various styles including Shorinji Kenpo, Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Krav Maga, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Wing Chun. I'm also professionally trained in the bo staff, combat knife and tonfa. If you truly understood the values of martial arts as you say you do, you would understand that a gun could be seen as an acceptable level of defense in the appropriate situation. And I am prepared for any situation.

He's got a point. Obamacare does not provide 100% coverage or anything close to it. What it does is fine employers who don't provide it for their workers. Congress would never have passed 100% coverage funded by the federal government.

I can't provide that list of employers.

I didn't say 100% though did I; this is you inferring. Bottom line, Obamacare shall help provide coverage to near 100% of the 50m people or so who were previously uninsured/uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions.

Well that's definitely not true.

Edit: and what were we supposed to infer from "All but 100% with the recent healthcare changes enacted by Obama"?

You sound like a scared little girl tbh. You take up all these safety precautions and yet from what I hear you've never been in danger once. I bet I've been in more danger than you but you don't see me getting a weapon. Sure, martial arts helps but I mainly do it to compete, for fun, fitness and to progress. Maybe it'd help to know what you plan to do with that gun - either way though you know guns can do serious damage whether fatal or not and is not something to be taken lightly. It's also all very well mentioning all these martial arts but without context it doesn't tell me much.

Bottom line, thankfully most Americans side with me on the issue of same-sex marriage, as most Americans support it; so you and your minority can kiss me where the sun doesn't shine

*rolls eyes* Oh, you have been in more danger than me? I thought the UK wasn't as dangerous a place as the US? Or are you going to retract that statement now? Honestly, I think you're just TRYING to find fault with my lifestyle, when there's nothing wrong with what I do. "Oh! You do martial arts and carry a gun? I bet you don't know what you're talking about! I'll throw out lots of numbers of how much money I spend to make it look like I know more than you!". And when that didn't work... "Oh! So you DO know more than me? I'll call you a scared little girl because I'm intimidated! I'll also claim that you've never been in a dangerous situation because THAT will really rile you up! HAH!"

edit: it isn't worth debating with someone like you, lol. I'm done.

*rolls eyes* Oh, you have been in more danger than me? I thought the UK wasn't as dangerous a place as the US? Or are you going to retract that statement now? Honestly, I think you're just TRYING to find fault with my lifestyle, when there's nothing wrong with what I do. "Oh! You do martial arts and carry a gun? I bet you don't know what you're talking about! I'll throw out lots of numbers of how much money I spend to make it look like I know more than you!". And when that didn't work... "Oh! So you DO know more than me? I'll call you a scared little girl because I'm intimidated! I'll also claim that you've never been in a dangerous situation because THAT will really rile you up! HAH!"

edit: it isn't worth debating with someone like you, lol. I'm done.

Thought I should jump into this thread... As an American and Californian.

I find it mildly amusing that without ever traveling to the US, some of you hold such negative opinions towards the US and it's citizens.

I will state that some points made do hold some validity. Others are so off base and ill informed that some of you deserve to be in the US with the rest of the groups of close-minded unintelligent individuals that are ruining the US as a whole.

I'm happy to debate. I do enjoy it and if you want to question my background feel free. I'm a 25 year old small business owner and student. I'm a registered voter, gun owner, supporter of gay marriage, and a racial minority( Filipino mostly with Scottish and German decent). Not a lot about the US I haven't seen.

However, I am fleeing to England to attend a uni in the north for a reason.

My goodness, we sound a lot alike. Well, except for that I'm a white female and you're a Filipino male. Maybe you'll have better luck debating against the alexs'. Careful though, one of them might call you a scared little boy for being a gun owner.

haha scared i am not. lol. i hunt. and id like to see them survive two drive bys, being robbed at gun point , and being carjacked at gunpoint on three occasions. being in the wrong place at the wrong time will make you by some protection. my hunting rifles are much to big to conceal and they would make a mess of things.

You've been carjacked at gunpoint three times? HOW HAVE YOU MANAGED THIS? I'm also from California, and have never handled or fired a gun, or even seen a gun fired. Maybe you need to drive a less awesome car?

I want to start a debate, I like capitalism but I hate the American way of life, it also annoys me that it is said to be the land of the free when there is so much discrimination there.

Although America looks like it would be fun to visit, social inequalities and sheer wastage would just get me angry!

Any thoughts

Your opinion of america does not matter and is of no importance. You don't get a vote. You need to be concerned with other places like the condition of derelict europe which has fallen to complete and utter ****. The morals or essentially lack thereof is disgusting an unbecoming for anyone who calls themselves citizens of the world. Europeans stand by and watch massacres occur. The UK itself has raped land for resources and people. The horror that small place has set upon the world is shocking and anyone who is british should be forever ashamed to be associated with that place. Europeans are very racist, especially the british. Unfortunately it is ingrained in their culture. Europeans have always been arrogant and are known around the world for their snotty attitudes. There insistence that people ignore the sickness in the world is unbelievable.