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Is media studies degree rubbish?

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Reply 20
Original post by non
university is a job training institution


No, it's actually not. That is actually what polys were for. University is actually, and traditionally has always been, to promote independent thought and questioning. University is not "THE NEXT STEP" after college which helps you get a job, that's just what people going into a few, very defined positions (medical, law, teaching) or corporate-drone positions believe.

I've worked professionally for 10 years since graduating high school (US) as an IT manager, social media and internet marketing specialist, and as a film producer/various aspects of production. I am now going back to university to study film studies, as it's something I enjoy. After getting my bachelors, I plan to go to Columbia, NYU, or USC to attain a MFA (or MFA/MBA) in Film Producing. Having already worked professionally, I already know a degree does not guarantee a job, nor does it guarantee success, as I have achieved those on my own already (I own a home in the US, have investments that allow me to live comfortably, etc). Now, I have the chance to study something I'm interested in, which will allow me to do well and let me study further at the Masters level. A MFA program at one of hte institutions I listed will take on anywhere from 6-25ish students a year, and at the end of the program, those students are courted for Hollywood studio exec positions, or they go on to produce their own films (many popular films, one of which, off the top of my head, being the Hurt Locker).

A degree is, of course, only what you make of it. The majority of your success lies in you yourself.

edit: I might add that at home in the US, the kind of people that would consider a media studies degree rubbish would also consider English, History, Philosophy, Psychology, etc rubbish subjects. It's all subjective. And plenty of grad jobs just require a 2.1 from a good uni, my husband works at a top consultancy, and he has a "combined social sciences" degree from Durham. Seen as a "soft" degree, he's doing quite well for himself with it.
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Reply 21
Original post by sarahoo
No, it's actually not. That is actually what polys were for. University is actually, and traditionally has always been, to promote independent thought and questioning. University is not "THE NEXT STEP" after college which helps you get a job, that's just what people going into a few, very defined positions (medical, law, teaching) or corporate-drone positions believe.

I've worked professional for 10 years since graduating high school (US) as an IT manager, social media and internet marketing specialist, and as a film producer/various aspects of production. I am now going back to university to study film studies, as it's something I enjoy. After getting my bachelors, I plan to go to Columbia, NYU, or USC to attain a MFA (or MFA/MBA) in Film Producing. Having already worked professionally, I already know a degree does not guarantee a job, nor does it guarantee success, as I have achieved those on my own already (I own a home in the US, have investments that allow me to live comfortably, etc). Now, I have the chance to study something I'm interested in, which will allow me to do well and let me study further at the Masters level. A MFA program at one of hte institutions I listed will take on anywhere from 6-25ish students a year, and at the end of the program, those students are courted for Hollywood studio exec positions, or they go on to produce their own films (many popular films, one of which, off the top of my head, being the Hurt Locker).

A degree is, of course, only what you make of it. The majority of your success lies in you yourself.

edit: I might add that at home in the US, the kind of people that would consider a media studies degree rubbish would also consider English, History, Philosophy, Psychology, etc rubbish subjects. It's all subjective. And plenty of grad jobs just require a 2.1 from a good uni, my husband works at a top consultancy, and he has a "combined social sciences" degree from Durham. Seen as a "soft" degree, he's doing quite well for himself with it.


i don't even know what you are trying to say but for your first degree you care about job prospects but later you can take a degree that you enjoy because you have financial safety.
Reply 22
Original post by non
i don't even know what you are trying to say but for your first degree you care about job prospects but later you can take a degree that you enjoy because you have financial safety.


What I am trying to say is it doesn't matter what degree you get for job prospects because getting a job depends on your abilities, intelligence, and skills. You can get plenty of grad jobs with ANY degree, and alternatively, you can get plenty of great paying jobs with NO degree. It isn't worth it to study a degree you don't enjoy.

edit: and as a 27 year old homeowner, even if it is anecdotal, I'm pretty sure what I'm saying isn't complete BS.
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Reply 23
Original post by sarahoo
What I am trying to say is it doesn't matter what degree you get for job prospects because getting a job depends on your abilities, intelligence, and skills. You can get plenty of grad jobs with ANY degree, and alternatively, you can get plenty of great paying jobs with NO degree. It isn't worth it to study a degree you don't enjoy.

edit: and as a 27 year old homeowner, even if it is anecdotal, I'm pretty sure what I'm saying isn't complete BS.


some jobs only interview grads from top unis as well and stats say media studies isn't good for employment.
Reply 24
Original post by non
some jobs only interview grads from top unis as well and stats say media studies isn't good for employment.



Many, many more Media Studies students go straight to employment than English students, and their salary is, on average, only 1k less a year, which averages to a negligible 83 pounds a month, and English is considered a "respected" degree.

http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/careers/what-do-graduates-earn/

And yes, some jobs only interview grads from top unis, which has nothing to do with the degree they studied, as I said.
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if the modern day media is being run by people who are graduates of media studies, then yes, based on that I'd say it's rubbish, ****ing pointless.
Reply 27
If by rubbish you mean not particularly attractive in to certain employers, then perhaps. But is this the sole reason for doing a degree? If someone wants to better themselves in an area (considering they now pay for it) then I'm all for that, it may be useful for what they want to go into, and it depends what university it's from.
yes, its a pointless degree...
Reply 29
If by rubbish you mean not particularly attractive in to certain employers, then perhaps. But is this the sole reason for doing a degree? If someone wants to better themselves in an area (considering they now pay for it) then I'm all for that, it may be useful for what they want to go into, and it depends what university it's from.

Often arguments about hard/soft subjects and employment are pretty ignorant. Chemistry is a very hard subject but has extremely low graduate employment rates - one of the lowest; I bet these people don't slate chemistry graduates.
Definitely. Simply because you don't have to achieve ANYTHING in order to do a media studies degree.
Reply 31
Yes, like every other degree where you need to win an olympic medal or capsize a somali pirate ship in order to get on the course.
After seeing my Cousin come out of Uni with a degree in Media studies and walking into a VERY good job, I'd disagree. However, after seeing some of the people at my college, whom are progressing to University to do the subject then I can see why people have this opinion. They're idiots to put it plainly, and this is why it reflects badly on the degree, because its dumbed down by people like this who go and take the course because it is done at relatively poor Universities with low entry requirements.
Reply 33
Original post by charlie9872
After seeing my Cousin come out of Uni with a degree in Media studies and walking into a VERY good job, I'd disagree. However, after seeing some of the people at my college, whom are progressing to University to do the subject then I can see why people have this opinion. They're idiots to put it plainly, and this is why it reflects badly on the degree, because its dumbed down by people like this who go and take the course because it is done at relatively poor Universities with low entry requirements.


I think that's a great point, though you can take any degree at a lower-quality institution with low entry requirements, it seems that as media studies is often a newer subject, and especially a newer subject to more prestigious universities, that connotation seems to stick in the minds of the uninformed. Like any degree, it depends on the person getting the degree, the classification (first, 2.1, etc), and the institution the degree was awarded from, among many other things.

No one's going to become a doctor or engineer with a media studies degree, but I should hope that's pretty obvious when you choose the degree, anyway. There are plenty of other careers to choose from, and hopefully, you'll be aware of that before starting your course of study.
Reply 34
Media degree is a huge oxymoron.
Reply 35
A degree in Media Studies done by a bright and motivated student who combined it with a wealth of relevant work experience and a clear idea of what they wanted to do after university could easily do a lot better than a History student who simply sat around for 3 years doing the minimum amount of work possible, and not getting any experience to back up their academic achievements.

I wouldn't recommend Media Studies as there is so much bias against it, but a degree is what you make of it and is not an inherent guarantee of success or failure.
So unless you have done Science, Maths, Medicine, or Law, your degrees are useless?

With all due respect, you'll find a lot of the people at top 25/30 universities, who think academia is everything, when it really is not. That's why you find degrees like History and English floating all around the high scale employment areas. In fact, History is the most common degree amongst FTSE 100 directors, so it obviously got them on a path to somewhere. Also, History is not simply going to library, finding a book and quoting from it. At degree level, you have to have a solid passion for History to imagine things in the time your studying, analyse different factors etc.

People are suited to all kinds of different subjects. You'll probably also find that Arts and Humanities graduates can do the general number crunching and AS level Maths that are required for most jobs, as well as possessing the communication, writing, social and analytical skills that firms want. I would bet that the most Science and Maths graduates would struggle to write a report, have good presentation skills as well as social skills, because for those subjects your mind literally works like a factory; there's only one answer, which means you don't really create, and you could stick your head in a book and do 1000 questions and you'll eventually get there.

As for Law, well a lot of people do it and don't actually get very far. Doing History or something keeps your options open for a conversion degree, because Law is quite streamlined for, just Law. I've been told employers sometimes question Law graduates who apply for non-law graduate positions because it gives an indication that they're indecisive.
Reply 37
Original post by sarah1345
So unless you have done Science, Maths, Medicine, or Law, your degrees are useless?

With all due respect, you'll find a lot of the people at top 25/30 universities, who think academia is everything, when it really is not. That's why you find degrees like History and English floating all around the high scale employment areas. In fact, History is the most common degree amongst FTSE 100 directors, so it obviously got them on a path to somewhere. Also, History is not simply going to library, finding a book and quoting from it. At degree level, you have to have a solid passion for History to imagine things in the time your studying, analyse different factors etc.

People are suited to all kinds of different subjects. You'll probably also find that Arts and Humanities graduates can do the general number crunching and AS level Maths that are required for most jobs, as well as possessing the communication, writing, social and analytical skills that firms want. I would bet that the most Science and Maths graduates would struggle to write a report, have good presentation skills as well as social skills, because for those subjects your mind literally works like a factory; there's only one answer, which means you don't really create, and you could stick your head in a book and do 1000 questions and you'll eventually get there.

As for Law, well a lot of people do it and don't actually get very far. Doing History or something keeps your options open for a conversion degree, because Law is quite streamlined for, just Law. I've been told employers sometimes question Law graduates who apply for non-law graduate positions because it gives an indication that they're indecisive.


you can't really compare History to Media studies, can you?

OP wasn't asking if History is good or not! So stop defending your subject of History so fervently and making a non-point.
Reply 38
i always thought of a degree as a way to enhance your personal knowledge of something youre interested in [it helping you to get further in life is just a great bonus] so if youre interested in media studies then its a great degree to have, as for work ...yar well its not so good...
Original post by yothi5
you can't really compare History to Media studies, can you?

OP wasn't asking if History is good or not! So stop defending your subject of History so fervently and making a non-point.


OP: "A tweet was read out saying "if they had more USEFUL degrees like maths or science, then they wouldn't be there"".

Clearly his main focus was on media studies, but he also spoke about other non-science, non-law degrees.

tl;dr - stop making pointless posts, hardman over the net.

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