Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?
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Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Just because the british army belongs to a country and isnt a "faction" doesnt mean it cant be called terrorist.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Yeah apart from the Armagh bombings which were sort if a big deal and the fact they acted like judge and jury by lifting locals, torturing and killing them.
Nice one.
You support the Argies wrongful claim to the Falklands and you support Terrorists.
And you call British soldiers terrorists. That's funny. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?And what is that cause today then? The blood of innocents?(Original post by ak137)
I support the cause, yes.
Only hate fuelled nuts support the CIRA and similar groups. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?FFS.(Original post by Dubliner)
And what is that cause today then? The blood of innocents?
Only hate fuelled nuts support the CIRA and similar groups.
You keep replying to me and i keep telling you to check my previous posts. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?"Their cause" pretty much disappeared over 40 years ago, eroded by their methods. Are you even aware of the methods they used on people? I'm talking about civilians as well as British soldiers.(Original post by ak137)
I support the cause, yes.
They aren't freedom fighters and haven't been for generations, they are quite simply terrorist scum. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?The IRA carried out thousands of attacks but you only hear about the small minority that went wrong.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Yeah apart from the Armagh bombings which were sort if a big deal and the fact they acted like judge and jury by lifting locals, torturing and killing them.
Nice one.
You support the Argies wrongful claim to the Falklands and you support Terrorists.
And you call British soldiers terrorists. That's funny.
As opposed to the brits acting as judge and jury to republicans? You make it out as if it was just random people. The community frequently went to the IRA to sort out Drug Dealers, joy-riders and other hoods. The Crim's were usually given plenty of warning first. Only in extreme cases where they executed.
Viva Argentina!
Of course they Brit scumbag's are terrorists lol. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Bloody Sunday?(Original post by thunder_chunky)
"Their cause" pretty much disappeared over 40 years ago, eroded by their methods. Are you even aware of the methods they used on people? I'm talking about civilians as well as British soldiers.
They aren't freedom fighters and haven't been for generations, they are quite simply terrorist scum. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?(Original post by ak137)
FFS.
You keep replying to me and i keep telling you to check my previous posts.
Don't worry, that's common with the anti-IRA types. They just cant get answers into their heads. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?The fact that you think that British soldiers are terrorists is simply laughable.(Original post by ak137)
Just because the british army belongs to a country and isnt a "faction" doesnt mean it cant be called terrorist.
Jog on -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Again, Bloody Sunday?(Original post by thunder_chunky)
The fact that you think that British soldiers are terrorists is simply laughable.
Jog on -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?I'm can't be bothered to check them. Either respond properly or don't.(Original post by ak137)
FFS.
You keep replying to me and i keep telling you to check my previous posts.
Look mate, I dunno who you are. But in modern Ireland those who seek for a united Ireland will do so via the ballot box in peaceful means - that is pretty much universally accepted. We do not support perpetual violence, bombs and so on. There is very little debate about this issue, and the thought of a return to violence puts the chill up the spine of most people in this country. So don't spout off about supporting violent scum, with no justification and expect people to accept it. You support violence and a return to endless slaughter of the troubles, as opposed to today, you better have a very good reason. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Thousands of attacks, maybe, but plenty of innocent people died at their hands and you think they still should be allowed to take the moral high ground? Lol ok, whatever you say.(Original post by IRSP044)
The IRA carried out thousands of attacks but you only hear about the small minority that went wrong.
As opposed to the brits acting as judge and jury to republicans? You make it out as if it was just random people. The community frequently went to the IRA to sort out Drug Dealers, joy-riders and other hoods. The Crim's were usually given plenty of warning first. Only in extreme cases where they executed.
Viva Argentina!
Of course they Brit scumbag's are terrorists lol.
Do you know what the IRA did to petit criminals, not drug dealers but other small time criminals. They would kidnap them and torture them, sometimes cripple them and you don't think I should see them as barbaric?
You clearly know nothing about the facts. You told someone ełse they have their head in the sand, you're a hypocrite.
Now run along -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Ive responded properly and if you cant be 'bovered' to check them, the fool is you.(Original post by Dubliner)
I'm can't be bothered to check them. Either respond properly or don't.
Look mate, I dunno who you are. But in modern Ireland those who seek for a united Ireland will do so via the ballot box in peaceful means - that is pretty much universally accepted. We do not support perpetual violence, bombs and so on. There is very little debate about this issue, and the thought of a return to violence puts the chill up the spine of most people in this country. So don't spout off about supporting violent scum, with no justification and expect people to accept it. You support violence and a return to endless slaughter of the troubles, as opposed to today, you better have a very good reason. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Laughable?(Original post by thunder_chunky)
The fact that you think that British soldiers are terrorists is simply laughable.
Jog on
Ireland,
Iraq,
Afghanistan,
Libya,
The rest of your former empire? -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Yes drug dealers lol. Torture is a outright lie tbh.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Thousands of attacks, maybe, but plenty of innocent people died at their hands and you think they still should be allowed to take the moral high ground? Lol ok, whatever you say.
Do you know what the IRA did to petit criminals, not drug dealers but other small time criminals. They would kidnap them and torture them, sometimes cripple them and you don't think I should see them as barbaric?
You clearly know nothing about the facts. You told someone ełse they have their head in the sand, you're a hypocrite.
Now run along
Knee capping was a harsh solution but it had to be done as there was no other way of dealing with dealers. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Bloody Sunday was a mistake. A complex mistake that came about because of complex circumstances but a mistake all the same.(Original post by ak137)
Again, Bloody Sunday?
That doesn't mean it's right to dismiss the whole British Army as terrorists. I mean, feel free to but it'll just mean you won't be taken seriously by anyone with half a brain.
When you've read up about the true politics and tactics of the IRA then come back to me. Because I'm not how you can dismiss or defend their actions. It tells me you're either painfully ignorant and uneducated about it, or something else. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Lol, 'mistake'.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Bloody Sunday was a mistake. A complex mistake that came about because of complex circumstances but a mistake all the same.
That doesn't mean it's right to dismiss the whole British Army as terrorists. I mean, feel free to but it'll just mean you won't be taken seriously by anyone with half a brain.
When you've read up about the true politics and tactics of the IRA then come back to me. Because I'm not how you can dismiss or defend their actions. It tells me you're either painfully ignorant and uneducated about it, or something else. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?If that's what you class as an argument I must be missing something.(Original post by IRSP044)
Laughable?
Ireland,
Iraq,
Afghanistan,
Libya,
The rest of your former empire?
None of that prices your silly theory about soldiers being terrorists because a) they go there because they are told to by the government and b) war crimes by soldiers are pretty damn rare/minimal because of the discipline of the soldiers.
Now, do you want to try again? -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?Is that really the best response you could come up with? Bless.(Original post by ak137)
Lol, 'mistake'. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?It wasn't just drug dealers though. The IRA acted as gangsters, organised crime almost. They used their status to bully civilians and that's just the tip of the iceberg.(Original post by IRSP044)
Yes drug dealers lol. Torture is a outright lie tbh.
Knee capping was a harsh solution but it had to be done as there was no other way of dealing with dealers.
You really don't understand their true nature. For whatever reason you don't, maybe because you don't remember the news stories or because your political ideal clouds the harsh reality.
Either way you're wrong. -
Re: Why do so many on the Left support the IRA?I fail to see how almost the killing of 30 unarmed peaceful protestors were a mistake. Maybe the first one, or two or three can be considered a 'mistake'.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Is that really the best response you could come up with? Bless.
Anything bad Britain does is always labelled as a 'mistake'.