Britain loves Hitler

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It's well known that the more people you kill the more celebrated you are. Look at a list of the 100 Greatest Russians...

Reply 21

ForKicks

It is the largest and most spectacular history in living memory within Europe. As such we feel more of a fascintation and closeness with it than most other history and even have grandparents telling us stories first hand!!

In a few generations time, I imagine emphasis on Nazi Germany would fade some, although still hold some prominence given its relative recentness.

Reply 22

cambio wechsel

It is frankly bizarre how much attention History as taught in British schools pays to the events of a single ten year period concentrated for the most part outside of the UK. You have students getting As at A level who know little or nothing about most of the key events in British history but a peculiarily large amount about the Anschluss or the economic failings of the Weimar Republic. It could be argued that this is only a prism through which to teach the tools and approaches of historical analysis, but why specifically this one across most or all of the exam boards? My own feeling is that it reflects a subsconscious nostalgia for what was the last time Britain was properly a leader and hero in the global theatre.

Reply 23

cyfer

Personally, I'm not that interested with European history and culture. What fascinates me most is how Asiatic Empires (not Middle-East) developed with a completely different system to Western ones, successfully too in many cases.

Reply 24

almalibre11111

whatever u say,if i could go back time i would have murder him{if i didnt have another choice ,for example to change his mind}

Reply 25

Politricks

Original post by Wave

If someone is really hated by everyone you would think that his name would be forgotten about and his memory cast into the shadows a la damnatio memoriae. But not so with Hitler. He is easily up there with Jesus and Caesar and Shakspeare as a candidate for the most famous person who has ever lived. Children across the country are taught Hitler Studies (GCSE history) He even has his own damn TV channel! (the History channel) I remember once my mum pointed out to my history teacher that on the front cover of the history textbook Martin Luther King was tucked away in the corner and Hitler took center stage with a massive picture dwarfing all the others. Compare Stalin who was arguably just as evil and even more destructive who is nowhere near as well known or talked about as Hitler. I have a theory that the US and Britain are secretly nostalgic about the whole "Hitler period" as it made life interesting and brought their respective countries together in a time of crisis to show their strength. Obviously I'm not saying Britain is glad the Holocaust happened or anything like that, but that they secretly liked the whole "banding together to overcome a big mean adversary" thing.

Hitler's not famous (only among Neo-Nazis and some others), he's infamous.
Well, Hitler was a big figure in History, he's well known for his evil crimes and provoking one of History's biggest conflicts, also Britain and America were with war with Hitler...who wouldn't talk so much about such a man?

Reply 26

Killuminati1989

Original post by Martyn*

Hitler was educated in Britain, and some believe that he worked as a secret agent under the guidance of the Tavistock Institute. The royal family also liked Hitler very much.

I did NAZI that coming!!!!! Anne Frankly, I won't stand for it!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply 27

Emaemmaemily

Original post by Infallible

No, but you were celebrating that 'you' stopped him. I wouldn't really call 73,000,000:1 'stopping' him, would you? The efficient comment was my own.

Actually, no I wasn't. You clearly didn't understand the points of my post at all. I was explaining the reasons for our country remembering him, which include the country as a whole (and I actually make a point that we weren't alive then, so not me) stopped him.
And it wasn't all of those people against one... There were a hell of a lot of people ON his side, obviously. You should probably 1. research these wars before commenting, so you understand and 2. actually read people's posts before responding.

I'm not "proud" in any way about how these wars went, I was stating why the country remembers him which is a totally different matter.
We remember him because of the terrible things he did (and, that he was ALLOWED to do by so many), and the pure fact that he got away with it for so long is fascinating... Of couse he is remembered. And every country involved in bringing him down in the end (and by bringing him down, we know it wasn't just him as an individual, but his armies and the countries that supported him) will reserve a certain pride in that whether they should or not.

Reply 28

username929842

The reason the Hitler is more famous than other mass murderers like Stalin or Mao is because Hitler had flair. The salutes, the armbands, etc... He was the Lady Gaga of genocide.

Also Hitler was not all bad. He did do SOME good things. A broken clock is still right twice a day...

Reply 29

Infallible

Original post by Emaemmaemily

I need to research things that I eat for breakfast? Okay then. I didn't say that they were all on the Allies side, but estimates stand at 61 million for the Allied forces and 12 million for the Axis. I also did say 'you' meaning you, but rather your country - because I am capable of reading, thank you.

If, however, people remember those evil members of history, then why do we not learn about the Imperalist Japanese and their experiments on POW? What they did was right up there with Hitler, yet it gets swept under the carpet.

One of the reasons I responded, was because I felt you were using the wrong tone. Yes, the Allied forces allegedly got Hitler to kill himself, but he was responsible for the deaths of 2.5% of the world population. So, I clearly did understand your points, but let's not concern ourselves over that.

Reply 30

Infallible

Original post by Mysteries

Sometimes three :smile:

Reply 31

Gwilym101

If someone is truly hated they are held up as a monster. So that people don't forget the suffering they caused and that people just as bad are still out there. Stop being a troll you sound like a moron.

Reply 32

TheSingingMute

The word you're looking for is infamous, not famous.

Well known but not well liked.

Reply 33

thunder_chunky

Sound logic if ever I saw it

Reply 34

Martyn*

Original post by ilovelabradors

The bastard will be forever remembered (for the worst reasons) because he was a very singular person (for the wrong reasons) and did horrific things (for the wrong reasons).

A guy that can feel pleasure in kiling, chasing and torturing so many people is someone no one can be indiferent to. Everytime I remember what he and his scum did I get so pissed... :angry:

Hitler felt pleasure in killing? I do not think that was true. The idea behind the holocaust was to rid Germany of Communist-Jewish influences. There was no pleasure involved; it had to be done in his, and his generals eyes, for the sake of German culture and society.

Reply 35

Wave

Original post by Kerrias

Fascinated by him? Yes I'll give you that
Love him? Erm...he is one of if not the most hated man in our society, we certainly don't love him

yeah fascinated is what i should of said really. The title was just for sensation tbh lol

Reply 36

circling the drain

As has been pointed out, 'love' is the wrong word. Morbid fascination yes, and the fact that World War Two marked the high tide of British power in many ways, and was the twilight of it's time as a first rate power.

As for Stalin, he isn't as reviled for a few reasons. Firstly the Soviet regime was extremely secretive so the truth about many of the things he did (for example, murdering polish officers in the war) has only come out relatively recently and is not as widely disseminated. Secondly, the Soviets were largely responsible for the defeat of germany on the ground, and as such, until the advent of the cold war, got a good press from the allies, which was hard to backtrack from later. It's often overlooked, for example, that britain went to war ostensibly to protect polish independence from the nazis, but stood by and let the soviets crush it (not a lot else they could have done).

Reply 37

TheSurgeon345

Original post by ilovelabradors

The same can be said of the US government, which does the same to many innocent people

Reply 38

Snagprophet

Hitler will be remembered as the third of the three main murderous dictators of history, incidentally socialist, after Josef Stalin and Chairman Mao.

Reply 39

Kink

Britain doesn't love Hitler. I will say Britain loves a villain though. We love the bad guy but only when he is fictionalised. Though Hitler was a real person, there has been so much said about him, that the image we have of him now is partly created and we invest a lot of time hating that image.