Would you date a recovering paedophile?

Original post by emilymay

TSR: the only place in the world where you get criticised for saying you wouldn't date a paedophile....

I wish I had rep left. :biggrin:

Reply 41

A pedophile is someone who thinks child molestation is OK so I dont see how anyone can try and defend either of them.

Reply 42

ArcadiaHouse

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Original post by vedderfan94

Don't be so ignorant ffs. It's something people are unfortunately born with. Would you discriminate against gays? It's the same thing. Gays are born as gays and paedophiles are born as paedophiles.

Oh my God, no, just shut up. People are not born paedophiles, it's usually the result of traumatic sexual abuse they have suffered in childhood. But it's still no excuse if they go on to actually commit sexual offences themselves.

Do not compare naturally occurring sexual orientations with the results of sexual abuse, that is ****ing disgusting and you should be ashamed.

Reply 43

Original post by hypercaine.

A pedophile is someone who thinks child molestation is OK so I dont see how anyone can try and defend either of them.

Pretty much sums you up.

Reply 44

Original post by vedderfan94

Don't be so ignorant ffs. It's something people are unfortunately born with. Would you discriminate against gays? It's the same thing. Gays are born as gays and paedophiles are born as paedophiles.

You clearly do not understand

EDIT - Sorry for condemning something which can potentially mentally scar victims for the rest of their lives who are poor and defenceless. Go forth and ruin lives to satisfy your sexual 'needs'

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 45

Original post by ArcadiaHouse

Oh my God, no, just shut up. People are not born paedophiles, it's usually the result of traumatic sexual abuse they have suffered in childhood. But it's still no excuse if they go on to actually commit sexual offences themselves.

Do not compare naturally occurring sexual orientations with the results of sexual abuse, that is ****ing disgusting and you should be ashamed.

Yes they are. I'm sure the people involved in psychological research know much more than your small-minded, ignorant ways. I'm not defending child molestation, of course I'm not.

You should be ashamed of yourself for being so ignorant and stupid. You are the cancer that is killing society.

Reply 46

Original post by hypercaine.

You clearly do not understand

EDIT - Sorry for condemning something which can potentially mentally scar victims for the rest of their lives who are poor and defenceless. Go forth and ruin lives to satisfy your sexual 'needs'

You are the one who doesn't understand. The media has brainwashed you into thinking that every paedophile goes out and rapes kids. Where did I ever condone child molestation? Get over yourself.

Reply 47

KrazyKro

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Original post by Chrosson

I don't understand the word 'recovering' in the context of paedophilia. It's not like a broken arm where you leave it for a couple of months and it gets better.

For those experiencing the knee-jerk reaction exemplified in post #6 and #7, I would first note that paedophilia does not imply someone has acted on their interests - it simply indicates the interest exists.

Coincidentally, I came across something related to this a few weeks ago. Perhaps something to think about (it helps if you know about the structure of reddit and how it operates) - http://tinyurl.com/3tyjetn
In case you're too lazy, the key paragraphs (this is not written by me, I just thought it was interesting):

I've always wondered about this, why do people accept certain things and not others of the same nature provided that none of those things pose a risk on others (i.e a paedophile not acting on his desires). Ironically, they consider themselves "open minded" while criticizing other cultures who they deem to be not "open minded".

Disclaimer: Considering the fact that my mind is also a product of a similar environment to your's, I despise paedophiles hence, we are all part of the same hypocrisy. Nonetheless, its something to think about before passing judgement on other cultures (which TSR does very proudly, everyday).

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 48

Chrosson

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Original post by ArcadiaHouse

Oh my God, no, just shut up. People are not born paedophiles, it's usually the result of traumatic sexual abuse they have suffered in childhood. But it's still no excuse if they go on to actually commit sexual offences themselves.Do not compare naturally occurring sexual orientations with the results of sexual abuse, that is ****ing disgusting and you should be ashamed.

To be slightly less inflammatory than the response 3 above, where are you sourcing this information from that paedophilia is ~~always~~ usually caused by sexual abuse in childhood?
I've come across a couple of anecdotes on reddit where this is not the case...

Edit: corrected my paraphrasing of the post

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 49

Original post by Chrosson

To be slightly less inflammatory than the response 3 above, where are you sourcing this information from that paedophilia is always caused by sexual abuse in childhood?
I've come across a couple of anecdotes on reddit where this is not the case...

Finally, it appears there is another poster with logic in this thread.

Reply 50

Original post by Chrosson

To be slightly less inflammatory than the response 3 above, where are you sourcing this information from that paedophilia is always caused by sexual abuse in childhood?
I've come across a couple of anecdotes on reddit where this is not the case...

The person you quoted said usually, not always...

Reply 51

Original post by hypercaine.

A pedophile is someone who thinks child molestation is OK so I dont see how anyone can try and defend either of them.

Sexual attraction to children =/= Supporter of child molestation

Nice logic, buddy.

Reply 52

Original post by vedderfan94

Sexual attraction to children =/= Supporter of child molestation

Nice logic, buddy.

How many pedophiles are child molesters?

Reply 53

KrazyKro

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Original post by ArcadiaHouse

Oh my God, no, just shut up. People are not born paedophiles, it's usually the result of traumatic sexual abuse they have suffered in childhood. But it's still no excuse if they go on to actually commit sexual offences themselves.

Do not compare naturally occurring sexual orientations with the results of sexual abuse, that is ****ing disgusting and you should be ashamed.

I would say it's very hard to believe that every paedophile is a product of past sexual abuse unless you've got a legit source to prove otherwise.

Reply 54

Ohlavelle

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I've repped you but I'd like to say that you often post very well thought out comments and I agree with a lot of them, this one especially.

Reply 55

ch0llima

Original post by Chrosson

Hm, I believe they were only pornographic in the loosest sense of the word. And by 'legal', I assume you mean 'in compliance with the new reddit rules'?

The new reddit rules were brought in to err on the side of caution and avoid having to interpret complex legalese on an unsustainable case by case basis. This is indeed outlined in or alluded to in the link you posted, but it seems to have been the case that a large number of pornographic subreddits were pulled by default then restored later once they had been checked over and reviewed.

Oh, and I remember reading that /r/jailbait was originally pulled then reinstated because one particular incident saw people using it as a means to swap genuine child pornography with little doubt wrt. its legality.

Reply 56

Original post by hypercaine.

How many pedophiles are child molesters?

A small minority. If you actually look at the research on paedophilia, the vast majority contain their sexual desires and wouldn't lay a finger on a child.

Reply 57

Veneta

Original post by hypercaine.

A pedophile is someone who thinks child molestation is OK so I dont see how anyone can try and defend either of them.

Not exactly, though I can see how you'd think that. :D There's a bit of a difference though. A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children, just like a homosexual is someone who is sexually attracted to someone of their own gender (though note in the latter case, there would be two consenting adults...with a pedophile and a child, well, a child isn't exactly a consenting adult).

I don't see how one can be a recovering pedophile though. e.o I'd expect that a pedophile will always feel sexually attracted towards some children (and to make a comparsion, OP, it's just as homosexuals are not sexually attracted to everyone of their gender — the novelty! Oh gosh! XD). And really, OP, you sound like a jerk. Calling all women narrow-minded just because they won't date a pedophile? There's a very large taboo/stigma against pedophilia in our society, and it's not easy to throw that away. Especially when there are always new news stories coming out another man whose abused young children. I'm not sure how much the world follows our news, and I wouldn't expect you guys to be very up to date on this stuff since I don't follow British news religiously either, but the the story on Jerry Sandusky was huge here. It's a big deal when anyone abuses a child, especially considering how children are practically helpless against adults. Child abuse should never be tolerated. Unfortunately, pedophilia and child abuse are not always exclusive, in separate bubbles from each other.

Reply 58

Chrosson

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Original post by KrazyKro

I've always wondered about this, why do people accept certain things and not others of the same nature provided that none of those things pose a risk on others (i.e a paedophile not acting on his desires). Ironically, they consider themselves "open minded" while criticizing other cultures who they deem to be not "open minded".Disclaimer: Considering the fact that my mind is also a product of a similar environment to your's, I despise paedophiles hence, we are all part of the same hypocrisy. Nonetheless, its something to think about before passing judgement on other cultures (which TSR does very proudly, everyday).

It is interesting. I imagine some people in this thread think I'm a 'sympathiser' or suchlike and yet, for all my arguments, I know I would not react very well to learning someone was a paedophile. I have been indoctrinated well by society.
At least I recognise that though :dontknow:

Original post by vedderfan94

Finally, it appears there is another poster with logic in this thread.

'Finally'? I've been posting since page 1. I think I might give up though.

Original post by hypercaine.

The person you quoted said usually, not always...

You are quite correct. I have edited my post, but I'm still interested in the source.

Reply 59

ch0llima