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  1. kratos90's Avatar
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by Wave)
    Well done you passed some exams. Your grades aren't even that special (GCSEs are piss easy and most smart people get all As at A level) and seeing as you never specified I'm gonna guess the top university isn't quite Oxbridge so don't get bigheaded now
    I couldn't care less that it's not Oxbridge, I'm having the time of my life, meeting the most amazing interesting people and wouldn't want to be anywhere else And also I'm very proud of my grades; I more then pleased with them and don't care if they're not perfect, I wouldn't want perfect grades if it meant being a loser. I love my life.
    Last edited by kratos90; 25-02-2012 at 22:33.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by kratos90)
    It is illegal without prescription, it's class B. It could be bad for you, everyone is different and no one really knows the long-term effects.

    It is prescribed for people with ADHD so some people take it every day, and even children take it.

    It's more than not just getting distracted, it gives you intense focus, you process things quicker and gives you more confidence. You learn more difficult things more quickly.

    If you want something legal, modafinil is another option.
    So do I just go to the doctors to get some then??
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
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    Ritalin is a amphetamine... it speeds things up. It is prescribed for people with ADHD as they discovered that for some reason they as yet don't understand amphetamines calm these people down and help them concentrate.

    However, if you don't have that condition then the effects are likely to be similar to any other 'speed' drug. This is why it is a class B. Dosages for ADHD people are carefully assessed. Taking it as a recreational drug or one that is used as a stimulant to increase work pace is another matter altogether. Aside from the risk of serious punishment should you be found in possession of it there is the difficulty of knowing the correct dosage levels for you. In addition there are the usual difficulties of relying on an amphetamine... these include:-

    That you will need more and more to stimulate you as you adjust to the dosages

    That you may develop speed psychosis, hearing sounds constantly in your ear and losing grip with reality

    That it may depress your mood inbetween taking it, leading to depressed feelings and sometimes paranoia

    That over time you will lose weight in a non-healthy way and put strain on your body and organs

    That you will begin to rely on the drug mentally and physically to do work and even in the end to get out of bed for some people. This dependance can lead to worse results in the end.

    NONE of this is certain... they are risk factors but pretty high ones. NONE of these apply if the drug is prescribed for ADHD as these people react to the drug differently'

    Personally I'd give it a miss
    Ohh. Okay I think Ill take your advice. Plus I dont want to get lifted for possesion of it. But I think that I could have really used it. But oh well
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by sammy93)
    Be careful if you ever go for a job or anything that needs a doctors letter. Mine loves too include 'she is to be commended for getting over her substance misuse troubles' because it says on the computer I received drugs counselling when I was 14-15. As well as a couple of paragraphs on mental health problems I used to have - even though they weren't willing to help me in any way at the time. Hate my doctors!
    That's appalling but cracked me up. I can't believe your doctor put that, what a tool.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by Ayesha.Tabassam95)
    So do I just go to the doctors to get some then??
    Yes if you have a valid reason for it.
    Last edited by kratos90; 06-03-2012 at 22:52.
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    (Original post by kratos90)
    Lol you'll need a valid reason to get modafinil, like having narcolepsy, you won't just get it prescribed for help with studying.

    But you can buy modafinil legally without a prescription, in the UK, just have to find reliable sources.
    What about being lazy, thats definately a valid reason!
    Can I get it in a pharmacy because if I get it online Ill probably get some hassle from my parents??
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by Ayesha.Tabassam95)
    What about being lazy, thats definately a valid reason!
    Can I get it in a pharmacy because if I get it online Ill probably get some hassle from my parents??
    Yes you can get it in a pharmacy if you have a prescription for it. Talk with your doctor about it if you want, but you won't get it for being a lazy student to help with studying , see what things it's prescribed for and see if you think you have any of those conditions then tell your doctor, but you'd have to be pretty convincing.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
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    Where did you get that impression from? Seems like the ritalin is making you stupid.
    Erm, actually, he doesn't need to justify himself to you. As far as he and anyone else on TSR is concerned, you're irrelevant, just words on a screen, and if you think he needs to justify himself to you, looks like you've got a superiority complex.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by kratos90)
    Yes you can get it in a pharmacy if you have a prescription for it. Talk with your doctor about it if you want, but you won't get it for being a lazy student to help with studying , see what things it's prescribed for and see if you think you have any of those conditions then tell your doctor, but you'd have to be pretty convincing.
    Her doctor will probably say that she doesn't have those conditions.:rolleyes:
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
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    Her doctor will probably say that she doesn't have those conditions.:rolleyes:
    Yes probably.
    Last edited by kratos90; 06-03-2012 at 22:52.
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    (Original post by madders94)
    Erm, actually, he doesn't need to justify himself to you. As far as he and anyone else on TSR is concerned, you're irrelevant, just words on a screen, and if you think he needs to justify himself to you, looks like you've got a superiority complex.
    Seriously what are you on about? I never wanted him to justify himself to me
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
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    Seriously what are you on about? I never wanted him to justify himself to me
    He said he didn't need to justify himself to you, you said "What gave you that impression blah blah blah". Either you think he needs to justify himself to you, or you're not very good at expressing yourself online.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by moya)
    Where did you get that impression from? Seems like the ritalin is making you stupid.
    How do you know it's the ritalin and not one of the other millions of factors in the person's life? It's probably not the ritalin, given that people take it to boost their cognitive faculties rather than deplete them.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    Your doctor has to have a very good reason in order to justify a breach of confidentially to themselves or to the people they will then possibly have to explain that breach to.

    Unless your doctor thinks you are a serious danger to yourself or others, they aren't going to say anything.
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by kratos90)
    Yes you can get it in a pharmacy if you have a prescription for it. Talk with your doctor about it if you want, but you won't get it for being a lazy student to help with studying , see what things it's prescribed for and see if you think you have any of those conditions then tell your doctor, but you'd have to be pretty convincing.
    Excessive daytime sleepiness (EDS) is characterized by persistent sleepiness, and often a general lack of energy, even after apparently adequate night time sleep. EDS is a symptom of one of the two forms of the sleep disorder hypersomnia, the other being prolonged nighttime sleep. (wikipedia)
    Referring to the words in bold:
    Especially during class
    I can sleep for 12 hours straight then Ill still feel tired when I wake up (although I do get a headache when I wake up which usually means I go back to sleep if I do).
    So do I qualify??
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by kratos90)
    Yes probably, but I know I could get it from a doctor, I'm pretty convincing :cool: But for modafinil there's no point as it's legal anyway.
    How would I convince him I do??
    Fall asleep infront of him?
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    (Original post by Ayesha.Tabassam95)
    Excessive daytime sleepiness (EDS) is characterized by persistent sleepiness, and often a general lack of energy, even after apparently adequate night time sleep. EDS is a symptom of one of the two forms of the sleep disorder hypersomnia, the other being prolonged nighttime sleep. (wikipedia)
    Referring to the words in bold:
    Especially during class
    I can sleep for 12 hours straight then Ill still feel tired when I wake up (although I do get a headache when I wake up which usually means I go back to sleep if I do).
    So do I qualify??
    Do you use an alarm to wake up?
  18. Ayesha.Tabassam95's Avatar
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by moya)
    Do you use an alarm to wake up?
    Yes but I have to put on snooze about 5 times.
    However last year I would always wake up at anywhere from 4-6ish and then go back to sleep then wake up at 8. Even on the weekends. I was always tired when I got back from school so I would go to sleep then.
    May I ask why??
  19. moya's Avatar
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    (Original post by Ayesha.Tabassam95)
    Yes but I have to put on snooze about 5 times.
    However last year I would always wake up at anywhere from 4-6ish and then go back to sleep then wake up at 8. Even on the weekends. I was always tired when I got back from school so I would go to sleep then.
    May I ask why??
    Using an alarm clock can make you feel really tired waking up, and it's quite unpleasant. Although most people do use an alarm clock, I would try waking up without one for a few days (if this is possible, maybe try at the weekend where you don't need to wake up for anything) and you shouldn't be tired when you wake up. If this is the case, then you can try adjusting your sleeping patterns, like going to bed earlier and not using an alarm clock and then you won't feel so tired when you wake up.

    Stuff like modafinil will work, and will surpress the need to crawl back in to bed but it interrupts your natural sleeping cycle, and that means that you are just generally not getting enough sleep. Getting enough sleep > modafinil

    Read this article if you have time, it's really interesting and has helped me: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleep.htm
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    Re: Are doctors allowed to tell police or parents anything?
    (Original post by MightyMe.)
    Also, (someone I know) has in the past self-medicated with unprescribed stimulants and cocaine, and has spoken to drs about this and they've been very understanding. I'm guessing it will depend on how you come across or your motives and stuff too.
    I think they're only allowed to break the confidentiality thing if you're putting your life or someone else's in serious danger or if you're dead obviously. I've admitted that I was having sex at 15 to a doctor before and he didn't seem surprised in the slightest lol. Doctors would get a lot of people asking them about drug related things. If you said you were a dealer then it might be different.
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