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  1. .eXe's Avatar
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    Girl dies after being forced to run
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...-as-punishment

    Life sentence for these two cows?

    Update: The girl's mom just gave birth to a baby today.
    Last edited by .eXe; 24-02-2012 at 17:25.
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    There is no intent, therefore it is not murder. Manslaughter yes, but it does not warrant a life sentance.
    Last edited by illusionz; 23-02-2012 at 20:47.
  3. StanKing's Avatar
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    They should both be made to run as well...
  4. johndoranglasgow's Avatar
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    As much as I say that I have no real desire to have kids - in part because I don't feel I would make the best dad.
    I can always sleep easy at night knowing I could be a much better parent than some of the brainless scum who are so desperate to have children, so they can treat them as badly as these two women did.
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    Stupid Parents.

    Not murder though.
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    Killers deserve no sympathy.
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    It's a horrible story! However not murder, the parents just need some mental help!
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    This makes me so angry, my grasp on language isn't adept enough that I can express how angry this makes me. Not only does this story reach that special zone where its Mind-Bendingly stupid people doing stupid things, and its just too much stupid- but it makes you lose a bit of faith in humanity as well.

    9 year old girls shouldn't die because of morons punishing her for eating sweets.
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    "Deputies were told the girl was made to run after lying to her grandmother, 46-year-old Joyce Hardin Garrard, about having eaten the candy, Barton said."

    A grandmother at 37 years old. That is something.

    The story is tragic though.
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    (Original post by illusionz)
    There is no intent, therefore it is not murder. Manslaughter yes, but it does not warrant a life sentance.
    according to the article the police are considering it murder (second line). I hope they do count it as murder and alabama has capital punishment...
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    This is really awful No one should do this to a child.

    On another note, did anyone else get seriously annoyed by the number of sentences that ended with 'Barton said'?
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    (Original post by .eXe)
    according to the article the police are considering it murder (second line). I hope they do count it as murder and alabama has capital punishment...
    What the newspaper quotes a (probably legally uneducated) police officer as saying does not equate to what the prosecution will push for in court.
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    if only TTTB had grandparents like that.
  14. No Future's Avatar
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    The grandmother/mother sound whack, but it doesn't sound like murder..
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    (Original post by illusionz)
    (probably legally uneducated) police officer
    .... what? A police officer will know full well what it is, especially if he or she is a person in contact with press releases. It wouldnt be a random guy patrolling the streets.

    If you bothered to look things up too. You would see they follow the felony murder law, thus use a broad term of murder which in accordance to this, means it can be mean they will be charged with manslaughter, they also use different definitions. So stop appealing to English law to make a point.
    Last edited by Tommyjw; 23-02-2012 at 21:09.
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    Trailer trash.
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    (Original post by illusionz)
    What the newspaper quotes a (probably legally uneducated) police officer as saying does not equate to what the prosecution will push for in court.
    What if a person has an intent to punish (like these women did) and shoots someone in the leg (non lethal) but the victim bleeds out? Can that be murder or is it still manslaughter since the perpetrator did not intend to kill?
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    (Original post by .eXe)
    What if a person has an intent to punish (like these women did) and shoots someone in the leg (non lethal) but the victim bleeds out? Can that be murder or is it still manslaughter since the perpetrator did not intend to kill?
    Shooting someone with a gun has clear intent to cause bodily harm, which if it then kills someone is classified as murder. Making someone run around does not have intent to cause actual harm.

    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    .... what? A police officer will know full well what it is, especially if he or she is a person in contact with press releases. It wouldnt be a random guy patrolling the streets.

    If you bothered to look things up too. You would see they follow the felony murder law, thus use a broad term of murder which in accordance to this, means it can be be mean they will be charged with manslaughter, they also use different definitions. So stop appealing to English law to make a point.
    When did I ever say that would not be the case? It is clearly not murder, but it is manslaughter.
    Last edited by illusionz; 23-02-2012 at 21:14.
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    Re: Girl dies after being forced to run
    (Original post by illusionz)
    . Making someone run around does not have intent to cause actual harm.
    Making a small girl run for 3 hours as direct punishment means no harm?

    I think you need to stop talking.
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    on a side note....

    im not too well informed about seizures... are you likely to get them after being severely dehydrated or is it a genetic thing or....
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