[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
The person in quesiton was speaking of Muslim rape gangs, not ray guns.

no he quite clearly said muslamic ray guns, want a video of it?

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
no he quite clearly said muslamic ray guns, want a video of it?

He said Muslamic rape gangs. You know that he said Muslamic rape gangs, however you distort and lie and twist fact to suit your own political agenda, you are a despicable liar

[nicknick1]

(Original post by cl_steele)
no he quite clearly said muslamic ray guns, want a video of it?

You were the person who introduced "Muslim ray guns" into this threat. The person clearly said "Muslim rapes". You introduced this as political propaganda to try and make someone who is telling the truth seem like a lunatic because the truth contradicts your "reality". (If someone says a rape is a rape, it's not Muslim or Christian, just ask the media what they think in terms of where they draw the reporting lines on crime in terms of ethnicity of perpetrators. 47 Muslim paedophiles at Liverpool Crown court tried all at the time! Not even a peep in the mainstream media (MSM) )

[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
He said Muslamic rape gangs. You know that he said Muslamic rape gangs, however you distort and lie and twist fact to suit your own political agenda, you are a despicable liar

i dont think you quite understand how much im laughing at what you just said, like honestly i think i peed a little.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL1jDcAHkc8

he quite clearly says muslamic ray guns ...

and even if he didnt and your beligerant lies were in some way true his rape of the english language is even worse, as the top commenter on the video said it appears he is struggling to think and breathe at the same time, this adaquetly sums up the calibre of the 'people' that follow the EDL.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by nicknick1)
You were the person who introduced "Muslim ray guns" into this threat. The person clearly said "Muslim rapes". You introduced this as political propaganda to try and make someone who is telling the truth seem like a lunatic because the truth contradicts your "reality". (If someone says a rape is a rape, it's not Muslim or Christian, just ask the media what they think in terms of where they draw the reporting lines on crime in terms of ethnicity of perpetrators. 47 Muslim paedophiles at Liverpool Crown court tried all at the time! Not even a peep in the mainstream media (MSM) )

not suprised you of all people commented here to be honest...
please see my reply to the other chap.

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
i dont think you quite understand how much im laughing at what you just said, like honestly i think i peed a little.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL1jDcAHkc8

he quite clearly says muslamic ray guns ...

and even if he didnt and your beligerant lies were in some way true his rape of the english language is even worse, as the top commenter on the video said it appears he is struggling to think and breathe at the same time, this adaquetly sums up the calibre of the 'people' that follow the EDL.

He is saying 'Muslim rape gangs' and this is cleaer reference to the rapes of young white girls by Pakistanis which has been widely reportedonthe press at the time.

You are twisting and distorting facts and it makes you look as laughable as it dishonest

[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
He is saying 'Muslim rape gangs' and this is cleaer reference to the rapes of young white girls by Pakistanis which has been widely reportedonthe press at the time.

You are twisting and distorting facts and it makes you look as laughable as it dishonest

sorry meine fuhrer.

oh please we all know full well what he is saying and its quite achademic to be honest, he is still a perfect example of what centuries of inbreeding results in.
shut up, it is not just pakistanis that rape people and you know it.

[Stiff Little Fingers]

wow. Seeing people like that makes me appreciate my ability to think and breathe at the same time.

DEY'VE GOT MUSLAMIC RAY GUNS!

(Even if he's intending to say rape gangs, he does say ray guns - or rather ray gans).

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
sorry meine fuhrer.

oh please we all know full well what he is saying and its quite achademic to be honest, he is still a perfect example of what centuries of inbreeding results in.
shut up, it is not just pakistanis that rape people and you know it.

Shut up and goodwins law all in one sentence, what an intelligent statement, along with your blatant lies, it really portrays a picture of your character doesn'it i.

Centuries of inbreeding ? Excuse me but in this society inbreeding is looked down, discrouaged, and is a strong social taboo,in case you have not noticed over an estimated 70% of Pakistani marriages are with first cousin (Panorama statistics), now who is inbred.

[Golden_Boy786]

(Original post by Joeyboy 12)
Sorry if this has been posted before but
what the hell is the English Defence League all about?

Is it a political organisation or just a riot group?

What is it's motives? And who runs it?

The whole thing about them wanting to prevent "extremism" is just a cover up.

There real motives are having a laugh, kill some time, and trying to act like hard-man walking the streets with scarves covering there faces.

Basically there just trying to grab the publics attention. To increase there benefits income. You don't expect a bunch of lunatics to have jobs. Ofcourse not thats why they want a bit of global attention so that the government gets soo fed up that they put all of them to social benefits.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
Shut up and goodwins law all in one sentence, what an intelligent statement, along with your blatant lies, it really portrays a picture of your character doesn'it i.

Centuries of inbreeding ? Excuse me but in this society inbreeding is looked down, discrouaged, and is a strong social taboo,in case you have not noticed over an estimated 70% of Pakistani marriages are with first cousin (Panorama statistics), now who is inbred.

im assuming youre refering to godwins law not goodwins?
it was two sentances actually
my blatant lies? interesting what lies have i been forcing upon your good fascist mind?
are YOU, you of all people seriously calling my character into question? loooool just think about that sentence again, once more please and observe the horrific hypocrisy in it.
i didnt say it wasnt? although on that note so's racist bigotry yet you seem to relish in 'paki bashing' ...
oh please if i felt the need i could say the queen of england runs a dildo factory and itd be more true than that codswallop youre spouting like a broken ****ing fountain, give my sources for this atrocious figure and dont just say a name of tv show, give me links.

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
im assuming youre refering to godwins law not goodwins?
it was two sentances actually
my blatant lies? interesting what lies have i been forcing upon your good fascist mind?
are YOU, you of all people seriously calling my character into question? loooool just think about that sentence again, once more please and observe the horrific hypocrisy in it.
i didnt say it wasnt? although on that note so's racist bigotry yet you seem to relish in 'paki bashing' ...
oh please if i felt the need i could say the queen of england runs a dildo factory and itd be more true than that codswallop youre spouting like a broken ****ing fountain, give my sources for this atrocious figure and dont just say a name of tv show, give me links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage

In Pakistan the figure is around 70%, here in Britain In 2005, BBC News reported estimates that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins,[105] and that British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with recessive disorders than the general population

And I saw the figure on Panorama, please show me a link for the queens dildo factory ?

[Kittencat]

I always thought he said Muslamic rape camps lol.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage

In Pakistan the figure is around 70%, herein Britain In 2005, BBC News reported estimates that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins,[105] and that British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with recessive disorders than the general population

And I saw the figure on Panorama, please show me a link for the queens dildo factory ?

just thought id point out here that marrying your first cousin is not incest under UK law and as such isnt illegal.

just google it, im sure youll find something amusing eventually.

yes you still havent given me a link to any hard facts yet, we're not going to count wikipedia ... its about as reliable as the dailymail, merely saying you heard such and such from there isnt really going to sway me that the majority of all pakistanis i know are bonking their sisters/brothers/etc.

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
just thought id point out here that marrying your first cousin is not incest under UK law and as such isnt illegal.

just google it, im sure youll find something amusing eventually.

yes you still havent given me a link to any hard facts yet, we're not going to count wikipedia ... its about as reliable as the dailymail, merely saying you heard such and such from there isnt really going to sway me that the majority of all pakistanis i know are bonking their sisters/brothers/etc.

first cousin marraige is incest and despite it not being against the law, it would abhor the vast, vast majority of British people.

Oh and read the links in that wikipedia article, covering up your eyes and ears and saying Iamnot counting wikipedia, clearly you cannot see the truth, youdo not want to see it. I am not at university anymore however if you have an athens account type it in and have a read.

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
just thought id point out here that marrying your first cousin is not incest under UK law and as such isnt illegal.

just google it, im sure youll find something amusing eventually.

yes you still havent given me a link to any hard facts yet, we're not going to count wikipedia ... its about as reliable as the dailymail, merely saying you heard such and such from there isnt really going to sway me that the majority of all pakistanis i know are bonking their sisters/brothers/etc.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ht/4442010.stm

http://jonathanturley.org/2010/08/22...ng-pakistanis/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8359962

http://www.plosbiology.org/article/i...l.pbio.0060320

I hope that is good enough for you

[Jack-Jimmison]

To me the EDL are going about this whole 'islamification' thing the wrong way. Instead of allowing large members of racists etc, the EDL should choose there members more carefully, should educate members in order to make valid arguments instead of racist rants and should abhor from violence and acts which damage their reputation.

I do agree that there is an information failure in this country that may not pay enough attention on crimes by Muslims but peoples of all creeds commit crimes and that shouldn't be the discussion of the debate.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
first cousin marraige is incest and despite it not being against the law, it would abhor the vast, vast majority of British people.

Oh and read the links in that wikipedia article, covering up your eyes and ears and saying Iamnot counting wikipedia, clearly you cannot see the truth, youdo not want to see it. I am not at university anymore however if you have an athens account type it in and have a read.

not justifying incest here or anything, i find it truly revolting, but some of the greatest minds and most powerful people this world has seen have been marrying their cousins such as royal families across europe and mr darwin.

hey that tactic has worked countless times before, for me and im not about to change it now.

whats this athens account you speak of?


alright i'll go with that evidence, apologies, i stand corrected.

[One Nation]

(Original post by cl_steele)
not justifying incest here or anything, i find it truly revolting, but some of the greatest minds and most powerful people this world has seen have been marrying their cousins such as royal families across europe and mr darwin.

hey that tactic has worked countless times before, for me and im not about to change it now.

whats this athens account you speak of?

That was before their was an understanding of genetics, it is extremely rare in the wets these days.

I posted several links including two journal articles onthis subject in regards to pakistani first cousin marraige.

Athens is an account where academic journals canbe viewed forfree, if you wereat Uni youwould be familiar with it

[cl_steele]

(Original post by One Nation)
That was before their was an understanding of genetics, it is extremely rare in the wets these days.

I posted several links including two journal articles onthis subject in regardsto pakistani first cousin marraige.

Athens is an account where academic journals canbe viewed forfree, if you wereat Uni youwould be familiar with it

yar i saw the links and edited my last post accordingly.

nope not at uni yet, later this year though.

aye well some people cant be swayed, im not quite sure what this little divergence has to do with the original debate though, how'd we come to this?