[jam277]

(Original post by Kevin J)
anyone who has any knowledge of football knows that england have no world class midfielders, and thats the bottom line cuz stone cold said so.

Oh, so steven gerrard is crap? I would even put lampard in but you'll dismiss it...
Wilshere is just a young chap who became a mainstay in the arsenal side with the best midfield in the league last season...

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more like

England vs Holland, Chris smalling KO

no?

[ThaChronic]

lol why are people still voting in the poll when the match has finished.

[Kevin J]

(Original post by jam277)
Oh, so steven gerrard is crap? I would even put lampard in but you'll dismiss it...
Wilshere is just a young chap who became a mainstay in the arsenal side with the best midfield in the league last season...

i was referring to the game tonight, and i think you'll find lampard is past it pal.

i'll agree wiltshere is world class tho.

[KingMessi]

(Original post by AntiMonarchist)
yeah england actually kept the ball quite well tonight, but i noticed the fans booing whenever our defence put together more than 5 passes.
mental, and we complain why we never win anything

It's very frustrating. An entire change of mindset is desperately needed.

[Hopsin rapper]

(Original post by ish90an)
Just because he's Dutch

Grass Jan Huntelaar

[jam277]

(Original post by Kevin J)
i was referring to the game tonight, and i think you'll find lampard is past it pal.

i'll agree wiltshere is world class tho.

Lampard scores goals, important ones, even off the bench. Only thing he can't do now(which he wasn't the best at anyway) is scoring a drive from 30 yards.

[Kaz310]

(Original post by Hatchet)
I said in my post I hadn't paid attention to him last season while at Wigan and after his first two starts of this season (before getting injured). I'm not even exaggerating, many united fan sees him as being the solution to your problems in midfield. I'm just wondering what evidence this is based off. I want to say United were very close to letting go a year or two ago but for whatever reason changed their minds and even now he's still yet to get any kind of run in the first team. I know he's had injuries but that's besides the point. I'm just saying there's so much hype around him for having not actually done much.

I don't think our midfield was as bad you lead on either, Parker and Barry were there to sit in front of the back four and primarily had defensive duties and did so reasonably well, their passing from the back and in more forward positions wasn't perfect but I know Parker especially made more than a couple brilliant blocks and tackles. Barry's had a really good season at City too and I think may get a spot ahead of Cleverly..

Clearly you did not watch the guy against Barcelona in pre-season and against Man city in the community shield. Especially against Manc City in the community shield when Utd were 2-0 down. Cleverley came on at half time and he practically tightened the hell up of that midfield and made everything happen including the Nani goal (Drool). Then he had a stormer against Arsenal and a few other teams in the Premier League before he bloody got injured.

( Yes I've over analysed the guy way too much, but he is defo one to watch and I hope he improves more because I highly rate him nowadays.)

[Kaz310]

(Original post by DaveSmith99)
Scholes would be perfect if he could be tempted out of retirement.

He would, but he wouldn't be making those driving runs which would be his only problem 'cos of his age. Ahh, I seriously hope Gerrard hits top form and is injury free now this season. And would love to see Cleverley and Wilshere atay away from injuries too. We seriously need them.

[nonotrly]

It's been so many years, how many more until the England team snap out of this belief that it's better to go down and make a big comeback than to take the lead in the first place. Every friggin' friendly...