[Steezy]

Chip Tatum was an ex CIA agent who gave an infamous interview in which he made a number of extraordinary claims regarding government drug smuggling, plans for the new world order, dirty war tactics, etc. In the video he names and shames ex-world leaders who were directly involved and backs up dates and his location & cargo with flight plans and other documents.

The full interview can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxZqaxlOuac

For people who understandably don't have a spare hour + to watch the video, a shorter one is found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IgsRHM6esw

Chip went missing in the late 90's & his tortured, faceless body was found washed up on a Panama beach almost a decade later.

The video below is an ex-government insider with a much more to the point & chilling explanation of future plans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec_b5W-xsQM





I thought I'd post these here to discuss in the hope that they can be argued with or debunked because they are quite frankly horrifying.

My personal view on the NWO is that there is a lot of evidence to suggest there are few people who actually rule the world and there is more evidence that a one world government is in the making and total control that comes with it.

What lays in doubt in my mind is what a one world government will actually mean.

Please don't just dismiss my post without watching the videos first.

If you disagree, then please state why, after all I don't want this to be true, I just fear that it might be.

[Blackshadow]

That is all.

[Steezy]

(Original post by Blackshadow)


That is all.

I was more after a debate/contemplation of the plans of the NWO once it is put into place... Any thoughts?

[Steezy]

Bump!

[Annoying-Mouse]

Unless Chip Tatum was a director at the CIA, he can't tell you future plans (why would elites want more people knowing? Maximum there can only be 20 people knowing.) for the world. He can say the government are involved in drug smuggling, which I can buy, because it's no secret that the government infiltrate gangs. He can say the government take part in dirty war tactics because again it's no secret that the government take part in dirty war tactics. However, his views on the NWO are just that his views. Do you realize how many of these supposed CIA agents there are attempting to apparently expose these plans? Do you realize that any US citizen with a degree could apply to join the CIA? Do you realize how easy it is to claim you're a part of the CIA black ops considering such a team officially doesn't exist?

What does it mean to control the world? What do these elites want? His evidence is incredibly shakey and unless those documents can be verified their pointless.

Also, what did the cornors report say about his body i.e. when did he get killed? Who is this Chip Tatum guy? How comes no reputable sites are giving me information and it's all from biased conspiracy theorist websites?

[Martyn*]

Did you know that the CIA emblem was approved by Freemason and President of the United States Harry Truman? The CIA is basically the intelligence agency for world/Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

[Sovr'gnChancellor£]

Because a few single men could reach a stable and steadfast consensus and not betray one another and have their own private individual plans, right?

The notion of a small group 'controlling' the world and have grand plans on which they all agree on in consensus without any disagreements is quite wholly ridiculous - unless of course, this small group were made up of non-human programmed robots for who it is impossible to disagree on their grand plan.

Remember, this is real life, not a storyline, not a film plot. There are so many variables, so many factors etc etc. The mere sight of how Congresses and Parliaments functions already by default throws this 'world being owned by a few men' notion as ridiculous and insubstantive.

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
Because a few single men could reach a stable and steadfast consensus and not betray one another and have their own private individual plans, right?

The notion of a small group 'controlling' the world and have grand plans on which they all agree on in consensus without any disagreements is quite wholly ridiculous - unless of course, this small group were made up of non-human programmed robots for who it is impossible to disagree on their grand plan.

Remember, this is real life, not a storyline, not a film plot. There are so many variables, so many factors etc etc. The mere sight of how Congresses and Parliaments functions already by default throws this 'world being owned by a few men' notion as ridiculous and insubstantive.

Firstly, we are dealing with human beings and there will be disagreements, but as history shows, across the world, influential and powerful individuals can be united under a goal, an idea or ideology. It isn't so ridiculous when you read between the lines, and connect the dots.

Secondly, history is pretty much like a story, albeit one in which another side goes untold. The government systems of the world run along the same kind of lines, especially in the West were they are united in fraternity. History shows that our political system was preserved and advanced by key individuals sharing the same ideas and goals. In the past, the foundations of those ideas and golas were embeded in fraternity. Today they have spread throughout the world like seeds, and the fraternities and secret societies have been instrumental in planting those seeds. To give an example, almost every Western politician, including puppet dictators have talked about globalisation and the new world order. Gordon Brown, for example, mentioned it in a speech. In fact, Brown was quoting George Canning, the socialist Freemason. Before Brown, Bush senior had mentioned it, then Bush junior, and now Obama. All three politicians have been members of secret societies. Now the pope has recently mentioned it. The pope, as all popes as far back as pope Leo IX were members of fraternities and secret socities. These fraternies share a common idea and common goals, because they have a doctrine. These people, politicians, prime ministers, presidents, dictators, popes, all share the same vision, and the vision has been carried forward by succeeding individuals. This is what the United Nations was designed for; to maintain peace amongst the 'rogue nations'. The elite few have branched out, have spread their ideas, and have made sure that in almost every corner of the world, their presence is felt.

The world is governored by an elite few via social and corporate networks of organisations, bodies and fraternities carrying the gloablist ideology, which has roots in the ideologies propounded by secret socities, many of them established at the turn of the 18-19th century. The CIA is a prime example. It is an agency set by Truman who was a Freemason Grandmaster of the Scottish Rite. Many individuals working for the CIA have known to have been involved in the running of mental institutions and housing authorities, and many of them secretly involved, such as Jim Jones, have been ordained into Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

The Scottish Rite are a very powerful secret society, and is the parent of American Freemasonry. Freemasonry is the fabric of American society and culture, as these videos show:

http://www.scottishritenmj.org/Membe...ofAmerica.aspx

Listen to what he says at 10.00 when he talks about the foundations of American power, the 'dangerous' idea that came from the craft of Freemasonry. The Freemasons are now on-the-move and are implimenting their plans, as noble as they are, or they appear to be.

[Sovr'gnChancellor£]

(Original post by Martyn*)
Firstly, we are dealing with human beings and there will be disagreements, but as history shows, across the world, influential and powerful individuals can be united under a goal, an idea or ideology. It isn't so ridiculous when you read between the lines, and connect the dots.

Secondly, history is pretty much like a story, albeit one in which another side goes untold. The government systems of the world run along the same kind of lines, especially in the West were they are united in fraternity. History shows that our political system was preserved and advanced by key individuals sharing the same ideas and goals. In the past, the foundations of those ideas and golas were embeded in fraternity. Today they have spread throughout the world like seeds, and the fraternities and secret societies have been instrumental in planting those seeds. To give an example, almost every Western politician, including puppet dictators have talked about globalisation and the new world order. Gordon Brown, for example, mentioned it in a speech. In fact, Brown was quoting George Canning, the socialist Freemason. Before Brown, Bush senior had mentioned it, then Bush junior, and now Obama. All three politicians have been members of secret societies. Now the pope has recently mentioned it. The pope, as all popes as far back as pope Leo IX were members of fraternities and secret socities. These fraternies share a common idea and common goals, because they have a doctrine. These people, politicians, prime ministers, presidents, dictators, popes, all share the same vision, and the vision has been carried forward by succeeding individuals. This is what the United Nations was designed for; to maintain peace amongst the 'rogue nations'. The elite few have branched out, have spread their ideas, and have made sure that in almost every corner of the world, their presence is felt.

The world is governored by an elite few via social and corporate networks of organisations, bodies and fraternities carrying the gloablist ideology, which has roots in the ideologies propounded by secret socities, many of them established at the turn of the 18-19th century. The CIA is a prime example. It is an agency set by Truman who was a Freemason Grandmaster of the Scottish Rite. Many individuals working for the CIA have known to have been involved in the running of mental institutions and housing authorities, and many of them secretly involved, such as Jim Jones, have been ordained into Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

The Scottish Rite are a very powerful secret society, and is the parent of American Freemasonry. Freemasonry is the fabric of American society and culture, as these videos show:

http://www.scottishritenmj.org/Membe...ofAmerica.aspx

Listen to what he says at 10.00 when he talks about the foundations of American power, the 'dangerous' idea that came from the craft of Freemasonry. The Freemasons are now on-the-move and are implimenting their plans, as noble as they are, or they appear to be.

I'll tell you straight up - I am going to let you win this one (for lack of effort at this hour).

But, just know, just know that I had the great power to completely and utterly rip your post apart and the sketchy foundations of your 'knowledge' and 'insights'.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by Martyn*)

The world is governored by an elite few via social and corporate networks of organisations, bodies and fraternities carrying the gloablist ideology, which has roots in the ideologies propounded by secret socities, many of them established at the turn of the 18-19th century. The CIA is a prime example. It is an agency set by Truman who was a Freemason Grandmaster of the Scottish Rite. Many individuals working for the CIA have known to have been involved in the running of mental institutions and housing authorities, and many of them secretly involved, such as Jim Jones, have been ordained into Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

The Scottish Rite are a very powerful secret society, and is the parent of American Freemasonry. Freemasonry is the fabric of American society and culture, as these videos show:

seriously? this site is for the discussion of meaningful facts not this gibberish conspiracy theorist crap ... one can only assume that you think the american government blew up the twin towers themselves and that the devils head can be seen in the smoke?

[Martyn*]

(Original post by Sovr'gnChancellor£)
I'll tell you straight up - I am going to let you win this one (for lack of effort at this hour).

But, just know, just know that I had the great power to completely and utterly rip your post apart and the sketchy foundations of your 'knowledge' and 'insights'.

Really? I guess that I will just have to take your word for it.

[Martyn*]

(Original post by cl_steele)
seriously? this site is for the discussion of meaningful facts not this gibberish conspiracy theorist crap ... one can only assume that you think the american government blew up the twin towers themselves and that the devils head can be seen in the smoke?

That's not what I think at all.

[cl_steele]

(Original post by Martyn*)
That's not what I think at all.

and im elvis..

[Llamageddon]

Elvis is still alive, Diana was murdered by the queen and paul mccartney died in the 60's only to be replaced by a doppelganger.

[Steezy]

(Original post by Llamageddon)
Elvis is still alive, Diana was murdered by the queen and paul mccartney died in the 60's only to be replaced by a doppelganger.

I'll forgive the sarcasm but ask you to explain how that bears any relevance to anything in this thread?

[thunder_chunky]

(Original post by Martyn*)
Did you know that the CIA emblem was approved by Freemason and President of the United States Harry Truman? The CIA is basically the intelligence agency for world/Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

Was that the lead story in "Tin Foil Hat Weekly?"

[Steezy]

(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Was that the lead story in "Tin Foil Hat Weekly?"

Was that the main pun in "Ignorant, brain dead ***** monthly"?

Do you actually have something to say? Or is that as intelligent a reply as we're going to get from you?

[thunder_chunky]

(Original post by Steezy)
Was that the main pun in "Ignorant, brain dead ***** monthly"?

Do you actually have something to say? Or is that as intelligent a reply as we're going to get from you?

You mean something intelligent like saying the CIA is an "intelligence agency for world/Scottish Rite Freemasonry?" You're right that is a hard act to follow.

Maybe I shouldn't point out absurdities.

[Steezy]

(Original post by thunder_chunky)
You mean something intelligent like saying the CIA is an "intelligence agency for world/Scottish Rite Freemasonry?" You're right that is a hard act to follow.

Maybe I shouldn't point out absurdities.

Still not hearing any argument against the claim.

[thunder_chunky]

(Original post by Steezy)
Still not hearing any argument against the claim.

I will when some the claim is substantiated with evidence.