I suppose you're going to bring up transgendered people and how they have equal rights to rape people too?

Or better yet, how about the path of a woman purchasing a pickled penis, then freezing it and then unconsentingly penetrate a male anus? Because technically it's her penis...

Reply 44

Pep_

Original post by edd360

You have to consider these things, I'm just trying to prevent loop holes.

Reply 45

Your New Shoes

Viagra?

If anyone watches True Blood, that's pretty much what happens to Jason :frown:

Reply 46

cl_steele

Original post by Pep_

Physical stimulation > Viagra?

with viagra one would havre to 'get it up' first though it wont just pop up on its own accord and physical stimulation, i swear itd still be rather hard to get it up if you really didnt want to?

Reply 47

Arekkusu

In UK law rape is defined as penetration with the penis.

However women can be convicted of sexual assault and be imprisoned for the same number of years.

Undoubtedly though legal terminology should be equal for both sexes to convey to men the seriousness of woman-on-man "rape".

Reply 48

rad_student

With less years in prison than if it had been a man, women rapists:

Susanne Louise Divers caught in bed with boy is sent to prison.
Hannah Grice teacher jailed over affair with schoolboy, 14.
Helen Goddard gets 15 months jail for lesbian affair with schoolgirl.

10 Hottest Dirty-Named Teachers Caught Sleeping with Students; mentioned paedophile Deborah Leafy, who is not on www.register-her.com/index.php?title=Rapists.

Notice even today they still use affair & not rape. Sometimes a woman rapes to steal his semen than have a child & tie him in; Boris Becker? Justin Bieber & Yeates? When rape does happen it tends to be recorded as sexual assault, as there is not enough education/knowledge.

Reply 49

Ice Constricter

Original post by cl_steele

well ive always thought of rape as penertration, which ever way it may be done, and bar violating him with a piece of plastic a women cant get a man to enter her against his will for the simple problem he wouldnt get hard and if he did he would have wanted it because hed have been turned on so meh...

What a load of bullcrap! If the guy got an erection it wouldn't mean he was consenting, it simply means his penis works, cause it responds to physical stimulation by getting hard, doesn't mean he was all for it. Just like if a woman got wet from being raped by a man wouldn't mean she consented regardless how 'turned on' she seemed. Surely as a guy yourself I shouldn't be telling you this :lolwut:

. Erections on men and wetness from women do not mean consent.

So let put it this way, if a fat ugly woman came over to you while you were tied up and started furiously stroking your penis, you would get hard regardless of whether you're attracted to her or not. She then forced sex on you. Would you say you consented just because you were 'hard'?

Reply 50

mikestraws

It's only an outdated dictionary definition that says rape can only be commited by someone with a penis.

Just like dictionary defintion of sex claims that two women cannot have sex, however it's perfectly fair to say that what a lesbian couple do in their bedroom is "lesbian sex"

Women who have been convicted of rape:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/16/newsid_2521000/2521053.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-31150/18-year-old-woman-convicted-rape.html
http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/woman-convicted-of-rape/
http://www.thelocal.se/21172/20090807/
http://www.ewn.co.za/Story.aspx?Id=81775
http://emergingminds.org/African-woman-convicted-for-raping-husband.html

and there are more.

Reply 51

Ice Constricter

Original post by cl_steele

Also if you've ever had 'morning wood' (but I doubt it) you'd know that men can get an erection without being turned on in any way, I have myself.

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 52

NDGAARONDI

The law has been changing over the years from using force to a lack of consent and I see no reason why the law can't change to include rape to mean a lack of consent between two individuals, or more, regardless of sex. Indeed, the law overrides personal autonamy when two 15 year olds may well be consenting with each other anyway.

Reply 53

Ice Constricter

Original post by stargirl63

Is this true? I didn't know this. I thought that if a guy gets an erection, he is aroused, and therefore wants sex to satisfy himself. Would that happen if he doesn't want to have sex?

Of course a guy can get ****ing hard without wanting to get it on! Ever heard of morning wood?

Reply 54

TimmonaPortella

Ok, thread, too many people saying things that are just plain wrong in here.

First, a woman cannot commit rape as principal. Full stop. The sex offences act 2003 defines rape as being committed by D where D intentionally penetrates V with his penis. A woman cannot do this.

A woman who forced a man to penetrate someone with his penis would be convicted of rape, as a secondary party -- she'd have procured the rape.

A woman who raped someone with a strap on would not be convicted of rape -- "rape" can only be committed by penetration with a penis -- but would be convicted of assault by penetration, which comes with the same maximum sentence.

These are facts.

The appropriate charge for a woman in this situation would be "causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent", which is also punishable by life imprisonment where penetration is involved.

Reply 55

Clare~Bear

Original post by non

apparently my sex education teacher said that if a women forced a man into having sex with her it wouldn't be classed as rape because it's not the pen15 going into the women's ... it's the other way around. if it went to court it would only be classed as harassment. also if a women had drunk alcohol and a man had sex with her he would be prosecuted for rape because she wasn't in a 'stable' condition because of the alcohol even if the man had drunk as well it would still be classed as rape. but it's still classed as rape if it's 2 men. other things in the law where it favours women over men, divorce and abortion, men get no say about abortion and divorce.

How are these things fair? we want a fair society and people go on about this thing called feminism and i don't see how these things are fair.

AS pep_ has said, the law classes rape as:

Under section 1(1) SOA 2003 a defendant, A, is guilty of rape if:

A intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of B (the complainant) with his penis;

I thought it was called statutory rape or does that only apply for boys under 16?

Reply 56

Ice Constricter

Of course in actuality a woman can rape a man, it's not ****ing rocket science. Woman spikes guy's drink to get him unconscious, while in this state she ties him up, forces viagra down his throat and *da da* you have a hard penis.

It's just that legally a woman cannot rape a man, which is retarded. I don't care if women get charged with another conviction equivalent to rape. The fact is a woman doesn't have a penis so the law stupidly says she's unable to commit 'rape'. And that's the problem right there, a woman can actually 'rape' someone and not suffer the consequences of being labelled a 'rapist' but if a guy raped he'd suffer with the stigma of rapist for the rest of his life. So basically when women rape there's a smaller stigma attached to them by society compared to men. Something I find inherently unfair to guys, something needs to be done, absolutely disgusting. The law needs to be reformed, just like how provokation, diminished reponsibility and murder were all reformed.

Reply 57

username540512

Original post by stargirl63

Is this true? I didn't know this. I thought that if a guy gets an erection, he is aroused, and therefore wants sex to satisfy himself. Would that happen if he doesn't want to have sex?

Umm...yes? That's like year 7 sex education knowledge. Especially as a teenager you'll get hard for seemingly no reason. Maths lessons and bus rides were my downfall...

There's no thought process that goes "hmm an attractive woman...PENIS, ARISE!". Just happens. One of the problems many rape victims go through is their own body responding to sex positively, whilst everything in their minds wants the opposite.