[Grahamcox]

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[Cool Kid]

There is no democracy in the UK as every party that has a chance of winning is the same. What we need is a totally new party that isn't made up of racists, nationalists or socio-paths, and would be happy to build more prisons and stop immigration. How you would do that though I have no idea.

[Grahamcox]

(Original post by Cool Kid)
There is no democracy in the UK as every party that has a chance of winning is the same. What we need is a totally new party that isn't made up of racists, nationalists or socio-paths, and would be happy to build more prisons and stop immigration. How you would do that though I have no idea.

There is democracy in the U.K. It's just you perceive Democracy as something that is a good thing when it really.. really isn't. It's awful and is the detriment to society. It's hurting the U.K as the system has been hijacked by ideological ********s or self righteous witty pricks.

[pol pot noodles]

(Original post by Grahamcox)
There is democracy in the U.K. It's just you perceive Democracy as something that is a good thing when it really.. really isn't. It's awful and is the detriment to society. It's hurting the U.K as the system has been hijacked by ideological ********s or self righteous witty pricks.

You're right, living standards have completely plumetted since this whole democracy experiment begun. Things were so much better under Cromwell

[Pareidolia]

When their alarm clocks go off, I suppose.

[Quady]

You should wear a sandwich board that says 'THE END IS NIGH'

When was the time of higher living standards then? When did things start to decline? Life certainly seems better than 10 years ago...

[Spoogle]

We need somebody who is awesome at Civilisation or Alpha Centauri to run the country.

[prog2djent]

Like your sentiments but its not that bad. We are one of the best countries to be in, on the planet. We have higher living standard (Which is the most important factor) than like 95% of nations.

[Cool Kid]

(Original post by Grahamcox)
There is democracy in the U.K. It's just you perceive Democracy as something that is a good thing when it really.. really isn't. It's awful and is the detriment to society. It's hurting the U.K as the system has been hijacked by ideological ********s or self righteous witty pricks.

Democracy is about choice. The UK offers no choice in who to pick.

However, I do agree that democracy is a stupid idea as it allows the people to chose their government. Not once in the history of the world has the average person been of a high enough intelligence to make a good call as to what their government should be. Maybe in 500 years when they have tightened the education system, but by then they will probably do away with the voting and replace it with a council of some kind.

[ch0llima]

(Original post by Spoogle)
We need somebody who is awesome at Civilisation or Alpha Centauri to run the country.

We need to build pyramids. One turn of anarchy after a revolution and unlocks all other types of government.

Spoiler:

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At least in the original Civilization. In Civilization IV it unlocks all Government civics

[chrisawhitmore]

I just woke up. My question is, when will the people get some damn breakfast?

[Llamageddon]

(Original post by ch0llima)
We need to build pyramids. One turn of anarchy after a revolution and unlocks all other types of government.

Spoiler:

Show

At least in the original Civilization. In Civilization IV it unlocks all Government civics

In civ 5 it gives you two workers and makes them work faster.

One of the most worthless wonders in the game. I liked it more when it just gave you a granary in every city

['Will']

(Original post by Llamageddon)
In civ 5 it gives you two workers and makes them work faster.

One of the most worthless wonders in the game. I liked it more when it just gave you a granary in every city

workers cannot even work anymore imo health and safety shut everywhere down and replaced workers with machines or moved the factories to china

[Mbob]

(Original post by Grahamcox)
The people are lost. Look at the 2010 General Election results. It seems voters have no/little faith whatsoever. Why? Pretty obvious really. Irresponsible borrowing, defecit and debt financing to the extreme that will take decades to balance the books at the cost of squeezing and forcing everyone to endure austere times. Well that alone is enough to make anyone aware give up and pack their bags and leave or just sit here in the U.K miserable at life's prospects. Ironically most our significant problems tie-in with eachother. Defecit and Debt, Inflation, Jobs, Taxes, Population and resources, Declining lifestyle standards. They all topple on top of eachother in a vicious cycle of decline.

Some have confidence that the electorate vote for what is neccessary. However... I just don't find it realistic that an ordinary voter who isn't that into Politics wields the sense to understand what the fxuck is happening. Aren't most concerned about their circumstance and their close friends and family? How many actually vote on a nationwide basis, even if it's the detriment to themselves. For example a wise person working in a non-job public sector position voting for their own demise. Yeah right. Lets face it. Previous Labour governments have created a society dependent on the state, can't go against the state for their own circumstances, conditioned into believing the state benefits them, not enslaves them to it. The Coalition has in a way continued this. New schemes and policies aimed to help certain sections of society.. but for what? Yup you got it. Taxes from people who aren't even born yet... It's scandalous. Our Electorate has become selfish in a way. Out for number one. That or they don't realise the consequences of their voting actions only leads to the detriment of others.

Our Society is lost and vulnerable.. they don't know what decisively needs to be done to put this Country back on track. This is very dangerous... When an electorate has lost faith in every main party and searches for an alternative that provides perceivable legitimate solutions. Well this can end in several awful ways. Think Nazi's. Yeah never gonna happen you say? Well Don't put it pass people who live through depression after recession, hyper-inflation and declining living standards. Which at the current rate is quite like.

The Coalition understands what needs to be done. But the Lib/Cons don't have the political will to instil waves of cuts, excruciating pain and stepping stones towards stability. People simply won't stand for it. I mean why should they? Enslaved to debt and taxes for the rest of your life with your lifestyle declining all the way?

This country is truly close to hitting the wall. When will the people wake up and realise? When our economy collapses into great depression? When our children are working 50 hours a week, with a lifestyle that seems poor compared to ours? Or perhaps when our resources dry up we all have to tighten the belt on food.. water.. oil. The worst part is when people realise.. they must endure pain one way or the other. Generations of austerity or the collapse of society altogether. What motivation is there to walk the audacious, potentially life crumbling path to a very unlikely time of economic prosperity, balance and improving living standards, morality and happiness?

Things aren't in our favour. We're running out of time.. the media has too much infuence over our frightened electorate and uninformed confused voters. Our Politicians do not have the will do what's painfully in the national long term interest in fear they will be kicked out by the voters. The most honest intended Politicians would rather compromise whats needed to be done to provide short term comfort to the people because the consequence of how this country has been run for the last few decades is just too immense and frightening. The scum politicians of course want to feather-nest their position.

Sigh.. Ironic really. Democracy, Freedom of speech and blurred government and individual ministers accountability. Have all contributed to the inevitable enslavement to the state and the decline of humanity in the U.K

Interesting rant.

Firstly, I refer you to this cartoon:

...decline of humanity in the U.K

Care to elaborate on that?

They all topple on top of eachother in a vicious cycle of decline.

I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

Sure, there has been a recession and living standards dropped slightly. They are recovering at a slower pace than might be desired. This is bad, but it isn't the end of the world. Living standards are higher than they were even 10 years ago, never mind 20 or 30 years ago.

But we are not declining, we are growing, albeit very slowly.

[Azog 150]

It would help if we actually got who we voted for in elections.

[Quady]

(Original post by Azog 150)
It would help if we actually got who we voted for in elections.

And who would that be then?

[Quady]

(Original post by 'Will')
workers cannot even work anymore imo health and safety shut everywhere down and replaced workers with machines or moved the factories to china

'elf 'n' saf'ty did that?

So it wasn't that machines are more consistant and can do a better job 24/7?

It wasn't that high skilled labour rates in China are £1/hour?

No, it must be 'elf 'n' saf'ty that means cars made in the UK today and the Chinesemanufacture Nike trainers.

[Azog 150]

(Original post by Quady)
And who would that be then?

Well if the previous election is to be used as an example we would have a Commons composed of:

36% Conservative
29% Labour
23% Liberal Democrat
3% UKIP


Instead we have got a Commons composed of:

47% Conservative
39% Labour
9% Liberal Democrat
0% UKIP

It gets even more ludicrous if you look at previous elections

The last time we had a majority government that was actually voted for by a majority of the electorate was in 1931 in which the Conservatives received 55% of the vote

[the man from space]

Well someone i bet has nearly finished their politics AS-level and how political parties work, i remember last year when i was at this stage

[jacketpotato]

(Original post by Grahamcox)
Our Society is lost and vulnerable.. they don't know what decisively needs to be done to put this Country back on track. This is very dangerous... When an electorate has lost faith in every main party and searches for an alternative that provides perceivable legitimate solutions. Well this can end in several awful ways. Think Nazi's. Yeah never gonna happen you say? Well Don't put it pass people who live through depression after recession, hyper-inflation and declining living standards. Which at the current rate is quite like.

This is where I disagree. Historically votes increased for extreme parties after traumatic events, but recently the number of votes going to parties like the BNP or the Socialist Workers Party has actually declined.

Things just aren't that bad. Nearly everyone has a really high standard of living. We get free healthcare, free education, subsidised university, large state pensions, subsidised housing for people on low-incomes, child benefit, reliable power, cheap travel, cheap food and more. Its not like after WW2 when people were really struggling to get by or the 1970s where you had mass power-cuts and slums in the big cities.