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(Original post by Bishy786)
Can't have been all that great if they fell to the "unintelligent Arabs".



People did not used to compete for intelligence. They recognized that God gave the ability to some and not others. Instead they collaborated and tried their best to advance themselves.

As for IQ, i guess you have to look at the literature/ideas that came out of Arabia/South Europe and look at the quality of life back then because it is an indication of how the intelligent people of society used to help the rest of the populace better themselves.

.... presumably you don't have a problem with the crusades then. I don't think that people need to be intelligent to conquer, obviously the huns or the mongols weren't very objective thinkers.

Uh.. ok whatever. Since IQ testing became available east asians have been shown as the most intelligent race, followed by whites. I think arabs are intermediate.

[AndrewWong92]

(Original post by Bilco)
Not really sure how far you could push a case like this. It depends at what point you want to try and make a case like this. I have wondered what mindset is required for a convert who goes from not being interesting to being deeply offended by drawings. How do you make a leap like that without some from of required mindset?

You could say that to a born-again christian who gets offended if you burn a bible in from of them? If your religion banned a certain activity and some people deliberately does it anyway, wouldnt you be offended? It was a cartoon which if anything actually insulted the religion?

[Playa10]

(Original post by Chloe xxx)
I agree, its because most muslim women are uneducated and stay at home cleaning, having 10s of kids and obeying their husbands. Its a male serving religion that shows little respect to anyone except muslim men. I think most muslim women are born into it and have to live their life Islamic or be killed or disowned from the family. Most of them look bloody miserable, coincidently the pakistani girls I see at college and that look the happiest are the westernised ones who dress like us and speak english. The ones who cover themselves head to foot look like they wish they could commit suicide.

You'd have to have a low IQ to be a Muslim, otherwise you'd have the brain capacity to realise what a shockingly awful inhumane religion it is.

Islam doesn't treat women with respect? That's rich. Don't forget, in the western culture, women were sold on the open market like cattle only a 100 years ago. Women in Islam have always been treated with respect. I would suggest you do some research for yourself before making ignorant statements.

[carleywatson]

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(Original post by Playa10)
Islam doesn't treat women with respect? That's rich. Don't forget, in the western culture, women were sold on the open market like cattle only a 100 years ago. Women in Islam have always been treated with respect. I would suggest you do some research for yourself before making ignorant statements.

As were kuffar women in Islamic societies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

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(Original post by AndrewWong92)
You could say that to a born-again christian who gets offended if you burn a bible in from of them? If your religion banned a certain activity and some people deliberately does it anyway, wouldnt you be offended? It was a cartoon which if anything actually insulted the religion?

Amusingly, Islam does not actually prohibit Quran burning.

If a Christian was following his religion correctly, he might protest but he could not use violence. There is no justification for violence in the new testament. Islam is different.

[Bishy786]

(Original post by Bonged.)
.... presumably you don't have a problem with the crusades then. I don't think that people need to be intelligent to conquer, obviously the huns or the mongols weren't very objective thinkers.

I don't get it.

Uh.. ok whatever. Since IQ testing became available east asians have been shown as the most intelligent race, followed by whites. I think arabs are intermediate.

But is IQ applicable in everyday life to survive?

[Caminacambob]

I think you guys are all forgetting the most important factor in this: Nazi Germany. Hitler tried to eliminate the 'inferior' races of the world and he had a high IQ; he was Islamic.

FYI all those using wikipedia as a sited reference are clearly morons.

[HumiT]

(Original post by Caminacambob)
I think you guys are all forgetting the most important factor in this: Nazi Germany. Hitler tried to eliminate the 'inferior' races of the world and he had a high IQ; he was Islamic.

FYI all those using wikipedia as a sited reference are clearly morons.

What do you mean by that

[AndrewWong92]

(Original post by Bonged.)
Amusingly, Islam does not actually prohibit Quran burning.

If a Christian was following his religion correctly, he might protest but he could not use violence. There is no justification for violence in the new testament. Islam is different.

No, but thats not what the islamic community was angry at the magazine for. It was because they drew Allah/ Mohammed which is forbidden.

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by AndrewWong92)
Well although she says that she is muslim, she isnt following the religion properly so how can you blame religion for her behaviour? What about christians that eat pork? in Genesis it says 'do not eat the flesh of the swine' yet many people do.

The middle eastern countries are incredible rich...are you saying Dubai is poor? It is one of the richest in the world! So is Qatar. Immigrants to this country are doing so because they may want a better life and are experiencing civil war. And also, a lot are skilled and educated which the country needs to fill gaps in the economy.

Well how much respect do you get from a night out with drunken men? Or maybe even walking down a street with a group of men outside a pub? (Yes i know i am stereotyping)

Religion is just part of the person. It doesn't mean an entire race is like that. What about NATO? I'm sure a lot of them are christian or whatever religion they believe and yet they would 'assist' Libya for freedom yet they only got involved when oil exports was halted in the country and they assisted the rebels once they agree to export to Britain, America and western countries at a lower price? And thousands of civilians were killed from NATO. It wasnt like Gaddafi didnt have any support. To me it appeared 50/50 with rebels and supporters. So people from christian countries, killed innocent people, for corporate greed.

Yet muslims who follow the religion properly, wont even accept interest on their bank accounts?

I said she did all those things, and is now a muslim. She has converted. I thought muslim women were meant to be virginal and not have sex until marriage? Can you be a born again muslim?

I used it as an example of the brainwashing of Islam that has happened in heavily pakistani populated towns in the north. And to be fair, how many severely radical Christians are there? A few in the US, the Westboro Baptist Church which is mostly one warped family. How many killings and radicalism do you see in the name of Islam? Loads. Its not a religion of peace, the world would be much more peaceful without it, clearly.

[Caminacambob]

(Original post by HumiT)
What do you mean by that

I'm saying Hitler was a genius with a great idea and he was Islamic. How can you then argue that people of this religion are stupid?

[Medican]

This is absolutely disgusting. I can't believe the amount of pos rep these religiously discriminative comments are getting. What is wrong with you tsr?

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by Playa10)
Islam doesn't treat women with respect? That's rich. Don't forget, in the western culture, women were sold on the open market like cattle only a 100 years ago. Women in Islam have always been treated with respect. I would suggest you do some research for yourself before making ignorant statements.

Women are still sold like cattle for sex, many in Islamic countries. This is because 'slave girls' are allowed in Islam.

And thats not how they treat 'kafir' women is it? You know, the women whom many are living in their country

[FrigidSymphony]

(Original post by AndrewWong92)
Well although she says that she is muslim, she isnt following the religion properly so how can you blame religion for her behaviour? What about christians that eat pork? in Genesis it says 'do not eat the flesh of the swine' yet many people do.

The middle eastern countries are incredible rich...are you saying Dubai is poor? It is one of the richest in the world! So is Qatar. Immigrants to this country are doing so because they may want a better life and are experiencing civil war. And also, a lot are skilled and educated which the country needs to fill gaps in the economy.

Well how much respect do you get from a night out with drunken men? Or maybe even walking down a street with a group of men outside a pub? (Yes i know i am stereotyping)

Religion is just part of the person. It doesn't mean an entire race is like that. What about NATO? I'm sure a lot of them are christian or whatever religion they believe and yet they would 'assist' Libya for freedom yet they only got involved when oil exports was halted in the country and they assisted the rebels once they agree to export to Britain, America and western countries at a lower price? And thousands of civilians were killed from NATO. It wasnt like Gaddafi didnt have any support. To me it appeared 50/50 with rebels and supporters. So people from christian countries, killed innocent people, for corporate greed.

Yet muslims who follow the religion properly, wont even accept interest on their bank accounts?

I would imagine that considering a woman capable of taking care of herself, demanding respect for herself, and doing what she wants to without being judged constitutes respect. Telling women how they need to behave to be respected is a lack of respect in itself. I'd have more respect for a stripper who was comfortable with what she was doing and had her reasons for it then a demure, frigid little cow who wears ankle long white skirts to be "respected".

[HumiT]

(Original post by Caminacambob)
I'm saying Hitler was a genius with a great idea and he was Islamic. How can you then argue that people of this religion are stupid?

I don't know if you're being sarcastic but Hitler wasn't 'Islamic'.

[Caminacambob]

(Original post by HumiT)
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but Hitler wasn't 'Islamic'.

Yes he was. You must be French.

[Medican]

(Original post by Caminacambob)
I'm saying Hitler was a genius with a great idea and he was Islamic. How can you then argue that people of this religion are stupid?

Wow....the only stupid person here is you.

[Chloe xxx]

"Slave women were required mainly as concubines and menials. A Muslim slaveholder was entitled by law to the sexual enjoyment of his slave women. While free women might own male slaves, they had no such right. The purchase of female slaves for sex was lawful from the perspective of Islamic law, and this was the most common motive for the purchase of slaves throughout Islamic history

Islam permits sexual relations between a male master and his female slave outside of marriage. This is referred to in the Qur'an as ma malakat aymanukum or "what your right hands possess""

How can you say that isnt sick?

EDIT: The key in this paragraph shows how muslim men are excused of grooming white girls for sex under this Islamic law. Sick and disgusting.

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by FrigidSymphony)
I would imagine that considering a woman capable of taking care of herself, demanding respect for herself, and doing what she wants to without being judged constitutes respect. Telling women how they need to behave to be respected is a lack of respect in itself. I'd have more respect for a stripper who was comfortable with what she was doing and had her reasons for it then a demure, frigid little cow who wears ankle long white skirts to be "respected".

Here, here. We in the civilised west have a different idea of 'respect', which means equality, sexual liberty and the freedom to do what we god damn want.

Painfully obvious why they lack so much respect for us, as we don't cover ourselves from head to foot