[scriggy]

Just a thought I had this afternoon. Should Rangers go to the wall then almost certainly a pheonix will rise from the ashes, in the same vein as AFC Wimbledon. This 'new' club will need to start at the bottom, but would that necessarily have to be in Scotland?

If they applied and were elected too, say, the Northern League (9th tier of the English league system) then the rewards for them would be potentially much greater than if they started back in Scottish Division 3. They'd probably make it to the Championship in 10-12 years.

Thoughts? I highly doubt it will happen but is there any reason why they wouldn't be able to do it should they wish?

[Colbert]

Isn't Scotland joining Scandinavia soon? Surely makes more sense to join the Norweigian league tbf

[shyopstv]

(Original post by scriggy)
Thoughts? I highly doubt it will happen but is there any reason why they wouldn't be able to do it should they wish?

Biggest problem I can think of is that the other teams in this division are teams who play at grounds that are one small step above park pitches in front of double figure attendances. Not sure how that kind of infrastructure will be able to cope when 10,000 Rangers fans turn up.

Then, of course, there is the fact that Glasgow is not in England and therefore they should not be able to waltz their way into the Championship thus depriving an English club of that spot. The Welsh clubs are different because there was no Welsh league when they were formed. Also, a club that is run in a stupid way should not be rewarded by being allowed to reform in a league where the rewards are "potentially much greater". What would stop other Scottish clubs from doing the same thing?

[Akinfenwa]

The SPL would probably die if this happened, not that that's a bad thing.

[amime]

I'm not sure it they would be able to climb up 8/9 tiers in that time frame tbh. If they went to the Northern League, they would lose all players to different clubs and literally have to start again. Probably with players of northern league standards as they wouldn't be able to attract better players.

The attendance would probably be very poor through stadium capacities, long travels etc.

But if they did make it, it would be good for rangers, although devastating for the SPL.

[CameronMCFC]

If Welsh teams are allowed to play in the Premier League then I see no reason as to why Rangers can't, the issues would be for Rangers, leaving behind a Champions League football fairly regularly (at least Europa most years) and 4 games a season against Celtic which the fans love.

[scriggy]

(Original post by shyopstv)
Biggest problem I can think of is that the other teams in this division are teams who play at grounds that are one small step above park pitches in front of double figure attendances. Not sure how that kind of infrastructure will be able to cope when 10,000 Rangers fans turn up.

Then, of course, there is the fact that Glasgow is not in England and therefore they should not be able to waltz their way into the Championship thus depriving an English club of that spot. The Welsh clubs are different because there was no Welsh league when they were formed. Also, a club that is run in a stupid way should not be rewarded by being allowed to reform in a league where the rewards are "potentially much greater". What would stop other Scottish clubs from doing the same thing?

You'd have the same problem if they were forced to reform in the Scottish 3rd Division.

I wouldn't see it as a reward either. They'd be losing out on Champions League and SPL revenue and be consigned to at least a decade in the lower league English doldrums. No SPL club would choose to join the 9th tier of English football, that would be madness. This would only potentially happen were Rangers to fold and be forced out of the SPL.

Also were Rangers to start at the bottom and work their way up to the Championship, then they'd be worthy of their place there, would they not?

(Original post by amime)
I'm not sure it they would be able to climb up 8/9 tiers in that time frame tbh. If they went to the Northern League, they would lose all players to different clubs and literally have to start again. Probably with players of northern league standards as they wouldn't be able to attract better players.

The attendance would probably be very poor through stadium capacities, long travels etc.

But if they did make it, it would be good for rangers, although devastating for the SPL.

AFC Wimbledon made it to League 2 with 5 promotions in 9 years. With the backing a new Rangers would have they could easily beat that. 7 promotions in 10-12 years wouldn't be beyond a club with that level of support.

(Original post by CameronMCFC)
If Welsh teams are allowed to play in the Premier League then I see no reason as to why Rangers can't, the issues would be for Rangers, leaving behind a Champions League football fairly regularly (at least Europa most years) and 4 games a season against Celtic which the fans love.

Obviously Rangers wouldn't choose to leave the SPL for the 9th tier of English football, but if they went out of business then it would potentially be a choice between the Irn Bru Scottish 3rd Division or the Northern League. The long term financial benefits of the latter are much greater. (Though I accept they'd be reluctant to leave Celtic for good.)

[Fusion]

If this happened then Rangers as we know it would cease to exist so would their supporters switch to this new club en masse, what if other clubs emerge at the same time?

Around 15% of lower SPL clubs derive their revenue from games against Rangers, i don't think Rangers would be allowed to fail.

[SirMasterKey]

(Original post by shyopstv)
Biggest problem I can think of is that the other teams in this division are teams who play at grounds that are one small step above park pitches in front of double figure attendances. Not sure how that kind of infrastructure will be able to cope when 10,000 Rangers fans turn up.

Then, of course, there is the fact that Glasgow is not in England and therefore they should not be able to waltz their way into the Championship thus depriving an English club of that spot. The Welsh clubs are different because there was no Welsh league when they were formed. Also, a club that is run in a stupid way should not be rewarded by being allowed to reform in a league where the rewards are "potentially much greater". What would stop other Scottish clubs from doing the same thing?

Gretna is not in England and yet they use to be in the Northern League until they switched to the Scottish League. Besides as has been said, it they did Waltz there from the bottom, they deserve it surely? Especially as all their top/best players would leave to another club where the money is.

[shyopstv]

No. They do not deserve to be in the English Championship because they are not English and have no reason to be playing in the English league. And who cares if it takes 10 years to get to the Championship? They have been wanting to move to the English league for longer than that and would probably not get into the English league for at least another 10 years should they survive.

[R-KAM]

[Colbert]

(Original post by R-KAM)

Why are you so perky this morning? Do not like to see such high spirits so early into the day

[R-KAM]

(Original post by Colbert)
Why are you so perky this morning? Do not like to see such high spirits so early into the day

Read the OP?

Sorry, I will go back to being depressing and gloomy until midday then, ffs

[Colbert]

(Original post by R-KAM)
Read the OP?

Sorry, I will go back to being depressing and gloomy until midday then, ffs

I don't even know why these fobs want to join the English structure. You are all unbelievably jealous of England and everything about it yet you want to remove any scrap of dignity and join us from the local pub leagues.

Andy Gray is turning in his grave ffs.

[barnetlad]

It's academic. I'm sure some white knight will come to the rescue and Rangers will be in the SPL next season.

[Sephiroth]

If this happened it could either be a success and Rangers would be in the EPL within 15 years or it could be a fail causing a split between the Rangers fans with a new club playing in the Scottish league and the old Rangers playing in the English leagues.

[Keese]

There is no mechanism in place to allow this to happen, thus it won't.

[mr-breaker]

(Original post by barnetlad)
It's academic. I'm sure some white knight will come to the rescue and Rangers will be in the SPL next season.

Rangers are ****ed like Davis in Scum

there are probably 3 people at most in Scotland that could afford to swoop in and pay off their debts + the Big Tax Case (which they're gonna lose) + the Wee Tax Case.

lets call it £100 million for the above (and given the fact that HMRC won't negotiate, so it's gonna have to be straight cash homie (no Randy Moss) on the table.

If I was a billionaire Rangers fan I'd rather buy Greek Bonds tbf..................

[Fusion]

The guy linked with a takeover is in a dispute with South Africa over £60m unpaid tax.

It just seems Rangers is the ideal club to defraud knowing that many of their fans are simpletons too brainwashed by secretarian hatred to care about governance.

Neil lennon recieved bombs for nothing, Craig Whyte won't recieve so much as a reverse call.

[R-KAM]

(Original post by Fusion)
The guy linked with a takeover is in a dispute with South Africa over £60m unpaid tax.

It just seems Rangers is the ideal club to defraud knowing that many of their fans are simpletons too brainwashed by secretarian hatred to care about governance.

Neil lennon recieved bombs for nothing, Craig Whyte won't recieve so much as a reverse call.

You sir, have hit the nail on the head