[Andre93]

(Original post by shake_it)
I am. I took Polish Matura recently and been predicted 90% (gonna miss it slightly )

Are you IBEB applicant?

Nah. IBA
Did they tell you to send your high school grades (from multiple years) or did they tell you straight up that you need to take the entrance exam? Because they didnt mention the entrance exam in the email they wrote to me.

[shake_it]

(Original post by Andre93)
Nah. IBA
Did they tell you to send your high school grades (from multiple years) or did they tell you straight up that you need to take the entrance exam? Because they didnt mention the entrance exam in the email they wrote to me.

I've sent them my grades but they were pathetic comparing to my predictions for Matura and my performance during examination.

IBA is of great reputation, but I want to be an economist, not a "business administrator"

[Andre93]

(Original post by shake_it)
I've sent them my grades but they were pathetic comparing to my predictions for Matura and my performance during examination.

IBA is of great reputation, but I want to be an economist, not a "business administrator"

I guess I'll send them my grades then too. My 9th through 11th grade grades are up to par to their standards. I'll just tell them I'll take the exam if that is not enough. I really wanna study at EUR/RSM!

[shake_it]

(Original post by Andre93)
I guess I'll send them my grades then too. My 9th through 11th grade grades are up to par to their standards. I'll just tell them I'll take the exam if that is not enough. I really wanna study at EUR/RSM!

In my country grades depend on the school you attend - the better the school is, the lower the grades are. I attended Top 10 school in my country.

Where do you come from?

I want to study at UCL but I am not certain if I meet my offer

Fingers crossed for you anyway

[Andre93]

(Original post by shake_it)
In my country grades depend on the school you attend - the better the school is, the lower the grades are. I attended Top 10 school in my country.

Where do you come from?

I want to study at UCL but I am not certain if I meet my offer

Fingers crossed for you anyway

I'm from Germany and did the IB diploma. I talked to them today and I'll just send them some school grades and I should be fine. I said I'll take the entrance exam if that still doesn't suffice, although I think it will.

Good luck to you too! UCL is tough.

[Jamiesonn]

Quick question.

To study economics and business and Erasmus would I need A level maths?

[Andre93]

(Original post by Jamiesonn)
Quick question.

To study economics and business and Erasmus would I need A level maths?

I think the requirement is a B in A-Level Math.

[Jamiesonn]

(Original post by Andre93)
I think the requirement is a B in A-Level Math.

so if you don't have a level maths you couldn't get in

[shake_it]

(Original post by Jamiesonn)
so if you don't have a level maths you couldn't get in

What about their internal maths test? Maybe it could be passed instead of A-level Maths...

It is the best to mail them I suppose

[Jamiesonn]

(Original post by shake_it)
What about their internal maths test? Maybe it could be passed instead of A-level Maths...

It is the best to mail them I suppose

ok thank you will do.

[duobe]

Hi there

going to apply for International Business Administration course in October (Erasmus uni Rotterdam). Just wondered if the entrance examination you have talked about is for Economics course only or for Business administration, too?
When I contacted university they haven't mentioned anything about entrance exam for this course.
Thanks

[shake_it]

(Original post by duobe)
Hi there

going to apply for International Business Administration course in October (Erasmus uni Rotterdam). Just wondered if the entrance examination you have talked about is for Economics course only or for Business administration, too?
When I contacted university they haven't mentioned anything about entrance exam for this course.
Thanks

I suppose that there is the same examination for both courses. Bear in mind though, that you don't have to sit this exam if you did IB, for instance.

[duobe]

have just checked their website for both courses so they say that it is needed for economics course. no information that it is necessary for IBA. however, I will ask them about it.


Have just contacted them and I will need to pass the entrance exam. Ahh, what a pity. :/ However, tasks in a sample exam don't seem to be difficult

[shake_it]

(Original post by duobe)
However, tasks in a sample exam don't seem to be difficult

Be careful though. And practice writing answers on a computer.

Good luck

[geesingsn]

Hey guys,

I'm currently studying IBEB and the Premaster Econometrics at the ESE and studied a year of IBA at RSM before this. If you have any questions about the differences between the courses and the career prospects please feel free to ask

[shake_it]

(Original post by geesingsn)
Hey guys,

I'm currently studying IBEB and the Premaster Econometrics at the ESE and studied a year of IBA at RSM before this. If you have any questions about the differences between the courses and the career prospects please feel free to ask

1. How would you describe the gap in reputation and career prospects between these two courses?
2. Which one of them do you consider more enjoyable?

Thanks

PS: I received an offer for IBEB few hours ago

[geesingsn]

(Original post by shake_it)
1. How would you describe the gap in reputation and career prospects between these two courses?
2. Which one of them do you consider more enjoyable?

So, your first point: RSM and ESE both have a great reputation (RSM 7th in Europe for business, ESE 8th in Europe for Economics), and globally they both are top 40 to top 25 schools in their specific area (depending on the ranking you pick). The main difference is found in two things: the nature of the programme and the area on which the programme focuses.

IBA is a very broad programme, you get a bit of everything and also isn't very in-depth. As such, RSM focuses heavily in its marketing on roles in general management at large companies and jobs in general management consultancy (BCG, McKinsey). Due to the fact that RSM spends so much on its marketing it is widely known within this area.

When it comes to IBEB, the programme is more focused and definitely more challenging (about 40% of first year students do not meet the requirements for passing the first year of IBEB, and many of them go to IBA after since it is easier). It is more mathematical and analytical, with a strong focus on economic theory and its applications and academic research (statistics, econometrics etc). As such, it is widely respected as an academic institutions, and many IBEB graduates go on to do Msc or Mphil degrees at top UK universities. It also means the degree is highly suited to a career in finance, since it allows you to major in financial economics within your third year.

To conclude, the focus of the programmes is different: when it comes to job in general management or consultancy IBA is the way to go. And since it isn't hard to pass the courses you can do a lot of networking. If you plan to become a professor (do a Phd) IBEB is definitely better, highly academic and quantititative. As such it is the way to go for careers in finance and organizations such as the IMF and the Worldbank.

I personally enjoy IBEB more (That is why I switched from IBA). I like the challenge it brings, and the opportunity to take more advanced math and stats courses from the econometrics programme (a so-called premaster). And I am personally really interested into maybe doing a PhD, since I absolutely love economic theory.

[shake_it]

(Original post by geesingsn)
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Thank you for your prompt answer. Now I am convinced that I made a right choice of IBEB over IBA. Just two more questions

1. Do you enjoy living in Rotterdam?
2. If you switch to another degree, do you have to start from the beginning (i.e. 1st year)?

[duobe]

Is it difficult to live in Netherlands if you don't know Dutch, only English? What about jobs, is it possible to find it for foreigner? And one more, is it difficult to communicate in such institution as hospital, bank and etc. do they speak English? I am sorry if my questions are silly , just have never been to Netherlands and I am going to live there for several years.

[geesingsn]

Haha, lots of questions I see, let me try to answer:

(Original post by shake_it)
1. Do you enjoy living in Rotterdam?
2. If you switch to another degree, do you have to start from the beginning (i.e. 1st year)?

1. I personally enjoy living in Rotterdam. It is a vibrant modern city, with a buzzing student life. The fact that it has been bombed in WWII makes it a modern city, but it also means it doesn't have a traditional "city centre" like most European cities. As such, you will be largely involved in events organized by students, but I think these generally tend to be more fun anyways There is something here for everyone if you just take the time to find it

Switching from IBEB to IBA is easy, the other way around is problematic (I did it, I had to take all course again). Switching to the newly established IBEOR (International Bachelor Econometrics and Operations Research) is even harder, but it is possible to take extra courses from this programme in your second and third year, given you had good grades in the hardest (i.e. mathematical) courses in the first year of IBEB. Doing this extra math courses from this programme essentially gives you THE ideal preparation for doing a Mphil/Phd in Economics.

I hope this answers your questions