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  1. Alpha5's Avatar
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    Re: Career prospects after A&F
    Career prospects after LSE A&F?
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    Re: Career prospects after A&F
    (Original post by Alpha5)
    Career prospects after LSE A&F?
    I don't think it's specifically LSE A & F. Just the degree as a whole.
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    You'll be fine in other careers A degree is a degree! You won't be able to do anything that needs specific accreditation (medicine, architecture) but you can do Law, any business/management role, whatever takes your fancy A 2:1 is generally necessary.

    Getting into IB might be difficult as, depending on where you go, you might not get the mathematical/quantitative modules you need to succeed there.
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    You'll be fine in other careers A degree is a degree! You won't be able to do anything that needs specific accreditation (medicine, architecture) but you can do Law, any business/management role, whatever takes your fancy A 2:1 is generally necessary.

    Getting into IB might be difficult as, depending on where you go, you might not get the mathematical/quantitative modules you need to succeed there.
    Thanks so it's it it quant enough for a quant role?
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    Thanks so it's it it quant enough for a quant role?
    It depends.

    My degree was by no means sufficient for a quants role (I did Accountancy though, not A&F) - it is very much dependent on the uni modules, and I don't know enough to say.
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    I know quite a few who have A&F who became financial advisors/insurance brokers/mortgage brokers

    I did Economics and doing CIMA so you dont have to do accounting at uni to get accounting job
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    I know quite a few who have A&F who became financial advisors/insurance brokers/mortgage brokers

    I did Economics and doing CIMA so you dont have to do accounting at uni to get accounting job
    i now that you don't have to do accounting to be an account but what i want to know, which you have answered is can you do non accountancy jobs with an accountancy degree because it sounds very specialised.
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    i now that you don't have to do accounting to be an account but what i want to know, which you have answered is can you do non accountancy jobs with an accountancy degree because it sounds very specialised.
    In the finance part of the degree you learn about insurance, risk, banking, equities, bonds etc.. My friend who works in insurance/banking at santander did A&F and is now studying the CII certificates (http://www.cii.co.uk/cii.aspx)
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    What about for a quant role at an IB? Is it quantitative enough to get a good masters and maybe a phd?
    No. Not even slightly. The only maths you will use is very basic. If you're interested in something like a quant role then you should just take Maths & Economics. At least then you can always do accounting. You couldn't switch if it was the other way round though.
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    No. Not even slightly. The only maths you will use is very basic. If you're interested in something like a quant role then you should just take Maths & Economics. At least then you can always do accounting. You couldn't switch if it was the other way round though.
    thanks just the advantage of A&F is that it has lower entrance requirements than maths and economics.
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    Can you go into IB if you take A&F from say LSE or Warwick ? just as a back up plan from Economics
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    Hi,

    I am hoping to go into a career in Finance but I need help choosing the univerisity that best gives me the opportunity to get into this sector in the future. Can you have a look at this link and give me any feedback? I am assuming some of you may of been to these universities and have a better idea of it.

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...7#post35723727

    Thanks
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    You'll be fine in other careers A degree is a degree! You won't be able to do anything that needs specific accreditation (medicine, architecture) but you can do Law, any business/management role, whatever takes your fancy A 2:1 is generally necessary.

    Getting into IB might be difficult as, depending on where you go, you might not get the mathematical/quantitative modules you need to succeed there.
    What are you talking about? IB involves little to no maths (GCSE) unless you're going for a roles where you're actually building the financial models the banks use. Of course, they only tend to recruit exceptional PhDs in Maths, Physics or Computer Science.
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    What are you talking about? IB involves little to no maths (GCSE) unless you're going for a roles where you're actually building the financial models the banks use. Of course, they only tend to recruit exceptional PhDs in Maths, Physics or Computer Science.
    Not true - I did an A&F degree and I build financial models in an IB.
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    Not true - I did an A&F degree and I build financial models in an IB.
    No, I'm talking about the guys who actually build the algorithms that allow you play around with your models. There is no way anything less than a maths degree (and most probably a PhD) will allow you to come close to understanding the way these models are structured.

    I'm doing a Maths & Economics masters degree and before I had fortune of choosing a module from the Mathematical Finance program I actually thought I was good at maths. Any 'modelling' you do won't even come close to the basic stuff they're doing. It honestly is on another level.

    It's like me saying I know how to build a car because I can drive.
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    LSE A&F Bsc good for FICC/ S&T roles? Or do I need to do a more quantitative masters in Finance. I can make my degree quite mathematical at LSE anyway it just that I get the impression IB's may have negative connotations surrounding Accounting and Finance, what do you guys think?
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    (Original post by Alpha5)
    LSE A&F Bsc good for FICC/ S&T roles? Or do I need to do a more quantitative masters in Finance. I can make my degree quite mathematical at LSE anyway it just that I get the impression IB's may have negative connotations surrounding Accounting and Finance, what do you guys think?
    FICC is very quanty. Ideally you want a maths degree if you want to work in fixed income given the fact a lot of the deals are structured.
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    FICC is very quanty. Ideally you want a maths degree if you want to work in fixed income given the fact a lot of the deals are structured.
    Ok thanks, but generally speaking to secure internships so I can experience different division within a IB, will A&F from LSE be sufficient? Thanks again.
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    I am just curious as to whether a degree in Accounting and Finance would restrict me to Accountancy in the long term. I have only started looking in to this course, as I was initially considering Maths & Economics. Any advice from qualified Accountants would be great. What are alternative career prospects after graduating and getting the ACA/ACCA/CIMA ? Cheers
    Maths and Economics will be a tougher degree and prob more respected. It will give you more options to go into more quantitative/numeric careers. However, you will get more exemptions with a and f.
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    Maths and Economics will be a tougher degree and prob more respected. It will give you more options to go into more quantitative/numeric careers. However, you will get more exemptions with a and f.
    Thanks, that has confirmed my thoughts. By exemptions you do mean just for accounting qualifications right? Or exemptions for anything else?
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