Why dont atheists believe?
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Re: Why dont atheists believe?
The main reason i don't believe in God is because i don't need one. I'm comfortable with my limited existence on this earth and i intend to make the most of it.
Not to mention the fact God supposedly condems you to hell if you don't believe in him. Gotta love that benevolent bloke in the sky. -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?
Because there is absolutely no reason to believe it. None whatsoever. It is by definition delusional.
There is no reason to believe in any one specific religious doctrine as opposed to any other, or indeed, ANY other superstition which exists in our species at this moment, because they are all equally uncontaminated with evidence.
There is NOT A SINGLE THING we can observe about this reality that is logically indicative of ANY divine creator, let alone any of the specific divine creators mentioned in our religious scriptures.
The fact that these delusions still exist in this day and age, and that our society accords them respect and consideration, is both utterly hilarious and profoundly disturbing.Last edited by ShowMeYourSpine; 21-03-2012 at 12:25. -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?No, if someone actually did manage to turn water into wine Id be really impressesed, the fact of the matter is there is no 'proof' of these miracles occurring which exists outside of the Bible.(Original post by MrHappy_J)
plenty of proof in the form of miracles, things that atheists view as coincidence.
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Re: Why dont atheists believe?well done for editing my post(Original post by Adequate Idiot)
No, if someone actually did manage to turn water into wine Id be really impressesed, the fact of the matter is there is no 'proof' of these miracles occurring which exists outside of the Bible.
why dont you read all of it before you reply? I never suggested there was proof of miracles.
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Re: Why dont atheists believe?ok maybe they did but god definitely does end of story, im not ignoring i just dont believe in evo. god made humans and animals etc end of.(Original post by max.d.cox)
its you who is ignorant, you ignore the FACTS.
(Evolution)
You sayin dinosaurs didnt exist- HAAAAAAA you make me laugh -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?We're not so sure, that's the problem. We don't choose to be atheists, it is the default state of not-knowing that we start from when we consider any evidence pointing towards the existence of a deity.(Original post by Camel)
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist.
If atheists are so sure, what evidence do they have to back up their claim? -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?You're thinking of antitheists.(Original post by Spairos)
Atheists actually know that there is a God but they reject Him -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?Are you still going? Just accept that an awful lot of people do not just 'believe' in evolution, but they also accept it as fact.(Original post by ah.7)
ok maybe they did but god definitely does end of story, im not ignoring i just dont believe in evo. god made humans and animals etc end of.
I don't 'not believe' in god, I am of the opinion that there is nothing to believe in or not, we are just animals on our little rock, whizzing around the sun and that is all there is! End of! -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?OK TSR Experiment:(Original post by ah.7)
i just dont believe in evo
Take 6 types of antibiotics every 3 days for 6 months then go into the kitchen and lick a dirty towel that hasnt been washed in several weeks. Once you get sick take the antibiotics the doctor prescribes. Then see what happens.
Then you can see if evolution is a myth
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Re: Why dont atheists believe?
I am an atheist and I don't believe because you simply cannot take a book and say that whatever it says (or some of its contents) are true. It's the same thing as taking lets say a harry potter book and saying that all of the things in that harry potter book are true and therefore a magical world must exist. I know that sounds stupid but that's exactly what religion does. If we assume that either Christianity or Islam is a true religion then one of these must be complete fake. So one of the Bible or the Quran is utter ******** written by complete liars. This idea of one true religion repulses me, and so I have no respect for any religion. That's not to say that good things can come out of religion. This also raises the question of why I'm not an agnostic but instead an atheist. Well it's simply because there is evidence of the universe being able to function without a creator needed, and also I hate to sit on the fence.
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Re: Why dont atheists believe?(Original post by Spairos)
Atheists actually know that there is a God but they reject Him
What god?
There are thousands of gods, why do you reject them when you know they exist? -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?You can't prove something doesn't exist.(Original post by Camel)
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist.
If atheists are so sure, what evidence do they have to back up their claim?
But there is so much more evidence for science than some so called 'Holy' books written millenia ago by old men in caves.
God is man created, and I really struggle to understand why anyone finds it plausible that a God exists... It's a fairytale that you were fed since you were born. IMO it's parents brainwashing us that continues the belief in God. If you were only told about God/religion when you were say 20 and you had a better functioning, more logical brain, you'd be a lot less likely to believe in it. -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?
IMO, there's no right or wrong answer. It's wrong to force your beliefs on other people because you think what you believe is right.
You have to accept that some people don't believe what you do. When insanely ignorant religious people grow up and realise they believe in basically the same thing, the world can finally move on.
This is my belief, I respect that other people believe differently, but this is a pointless argument that's just going to cause unnecessary conflict. -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?zounds... unmasked... well, might as well confess : that's entirely true(Original post by Spairos)
Atheists actually know that there is a God but they reject Him
but it's out of pure generosity : of course we atheists know that God exists, but since we know also that places in Paradise are limited, we atheists consciously decide to sacrifice ourselves, reject God and go to Hell, so that "true believers" have no problems in getting access to Paradise
so, there we are, silently trodding towards an eternity of torture, so that our believing friends and co-posters can enjoy rivers of premier cru wine, the black-eyed virgins, the harp-playing, the flapping around in flowing white robes or whatever else satisfies their little believing hearts...
but, are they grateful to us for our self-sacrifice ?
no : they call us idiots, close-minded, evil etc etc
truly, truly, there is no justiceLast edited by mariachi; 27-03-2012 at 10:13. -
Re: Why dont atheists believe?I think it's more complex than that(Original post by Insanity514)
This idea of one true religion repulses me, and so I have no respect for any religion. That's not to say that good things can come out of religion.
religion used to be an essential part of our identity : you were a Pole, so you were a Catholic. A Swede, therefore a Lutheran Protestant. A Russian, therefore an Orthodox Christian. Turk/Muslim, SriLankan/Buddhist etc etc
Of course there were also religious minorities within national boundaries, but usually these people were not considered as "true" Poles, "true" Russians etc (the Jews being the most well-known of these "shady" minorities)
With people moving around, settling everywhere, with people being less organically tied to their national/religious community, this deep link between religion and identity is in crisis.
To a certain extent, all religions are "true" : they are true for their followers, because they synthetize the experience of a people and of a culture (for the better and for the worse)
At the same time, since all religions are somehow true, none really is : this means, none is "objectively" true.
However, since "perfect objectivity" does not exist, we will never get to the bottom of this murky problem.
BestLast edited by mariachi; 27-03-2012 at 10:11.