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  1. Hopple's Avatar
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    Re: The Apprentice 2012
    (Original post by Jeester)
    Also,
    I was listening to a Radio 4 documentry a couple of weeks ago and apparently fine wine investment is reeeeeally not going well at the moment.
    That's what Tom wants you to believe, so he can snap it all up at low, low prices before the mega-boom!
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    (Original post by Hopple)
    Tom's wasn't right. His goal was to get £25 million entrusted to him to invest in wine. Nobody's going to give that sort of cash to a noob, no matter how promising they look. His way around that was to get the first 1% of that from a big name and hope that attracted more interest. However, Sugar himself didn't know how good Tom was at investing in wine - sure he can buy and then sell at a profit, but then he might as well try to get a £25 million investment in those bug toys, or fake tan spray.
    I don't know much (anything) about investment banking and hedge funds, but it seems to me that he was trying to skip the 'building a client base/reputation' step and go straight to the large investments. I wouldn't have thought that was the way to do it, but like I say, it's not something I do myself.

    Hmm, that's true. Perhaps he really doesn't know anything about their business plans until the end? Sorry to bring it up again, but Jade would've been booted out at her first boardroom had her idea been known
    Maybe... Nah, she deserved to lose with that idea - it was seedy.

    Perhaps here it is for drama. With Ricky going to win, which of the other three could be perceived to have the best chance? Lol @ Jade (), slightly less lol @ Nick () but Tom's was so different Sugar could pretend to be tempted by the gamble.
    I think they were all pretty ridiculous, besides Ricky's. Jade's was seedy, Nick's didn't take into account that people aren't going to buy recipe by recipe, and Tom's was a huge gamble from someone completely inexperienced. LS could have given us longer on You're Hired by cutting down the boardroom to "Well, you're all useless apart from Ricky ... so he's hired." But no, we had to go through the farce of seriously considering Tom's idea. :mad:

    I lol at Nick.
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    Nick, you're still a legend <3
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    Re: The Apprentice 2012
    I didn't think Lord Sugar would care about the ethics of calling people at home as long as it made him good money.
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    Thank God Jade didn't win. Been hating her since she begged herself out of it when Azhar was fired! She didn't even deserve to get to the final.

    So glad Ricky won. Wanted him or Tom to win it anyway since Azhar left
  6. Hopple's Avatar
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    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    I don't know much (anything) about investment banking and hedge funds, but it seems to me that he was trying to skip the 'building a client base/reputation' step and go straight to the large investments. I wouldn't have thought that was the way to do it, but like I say, it's not something I do myself.
    Indeed. He was hoping to build enough credibility with Sugar on these tasks (despite none of them involving predicting markets) to get him on board, and hoping that Sugar's name built enough credibility to get other investors on board (with those folk having seen even less of Tom than Sugar).


    Maybe... Nah, she deserved to lose with that idea - it was seedy.
    She didn't even tell us what she ought to have done instead on You're fired, maybe she just doesn't know It's a shame, to go all the way to the final even though the idea meant no chance of winning, but hopefully she's enjoyed the experience and learnt from it.

    I think they were all pretty ridiculous, besides Ricky's. Jade's was seedy, Nick's didn't take into account that people aren't going to buy recipe by recipe, and Tom's was a huge gamble from someone completely inexperienced. LS could have given us longer on You're Hired by cutting down the boardroom to "Well, you're all useless apart from Ricky ... so he's hired." But no, we had to go through the farce of seriously considering Tom's idea. :mad:

    I lol at Nick.
    The less time we had with that woman on the left the better
    (Original post by MrHappy_J)
    I didn't think Lord Sugar would care about the ethics of calling people at home as long as it made him good money.
    That's true, but he wouldn't want to publicise his involvement or even his desire to be involved on national television
    Last edited by Hopple; 04-06-2012 at 14:36.
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    Re: The Apprentice 2012
    Watching last night, one of LS interviewers said that many people don't plan the food they're going to eat for a week, and I thought this clearly showed how out of touch this particular interviewer was! Many many people plan the food they will eat for a week, so they don't overspend!!
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    (Original post by Firecrackerchild)
    Watching last night, one of LS interviewers said that many people don't plan the food they're going to eat for a week, and I thought this clearly showed how out of touch this particular interviewer was! Many many people plan the food they will eat for a week, so they don't overspend!!
    This is what I thought. I plan exactly what I buy for the week, according to my recipes. So I think there is a market for what he's proposing. Personally, I don't like online shopping, but of course most professionals do.
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    (Original post by Firecrackerchild)
    Watching last night, one of LS interviewers said that many people don't plan the food they're going to eat for a week, and I thought this clearly showed how out of touch this particular interviewer was! Many many people plan the food they will eat for a week, so they don't overspend!!
    I thought about this too, especially if you have a large family it only makes sense to plan ahead.
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    (Original post by Firecrackerchild)
    Watching last night, one of LS interviewers said that many people don't plan the food they're going to eat for a week, and I thought this clearly showed how out of touch this particular interviewer was! Many many people plan the food they will eat for a week, so they don't overspend!!
    That's true, but I don't think people will do that with recipes.

    The main issue I see with Nick's idea is that it relies on quick and free delivery by the supermarkets, nationwide. It was basically a fast food delivery service, just you (attempt to) make it yourself. That's fine if you're buying in bulk, and if you're happy to wait maybe a few days to cook, but the way he sold it implied he just wanted people to find a recipe online and go "Oh, I'd quite like that for dinner" - supermarkets don't deliver on the day, and their delivery charges could easily double the cost of the meal. You're left having to arrange a delivery time for one expensive meal when really you could just copy down the ingredients and put them in with the rest of your weekly shopping (either online or in store).
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    Goodness me, Jade. A telemarketing scam as a business plan? Really!?
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    (Original post by Hopple)
    The less time we had with that woman on the left the better
    Not a fan of Jenny Eclair? :p: She's not great, but I prefer her to Ruby Wax, Hugh Dennis or the bald one who looks like he should have played Gollum in the LOTR films.
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    (Original post by Firecrackerchild)
    Watching last night, one of LS interviewers said that many people don't plan the food they're going to eat for a week, and I thought this clearly showed how out of touch this particular interviewer was! Many many people plan the food they will eat for a week, so they don't overspend!!
    I've never come across anyone who plans their meals far enough in advance to get use out of a delivery service (apart from a short lived attempt by my mother, which fell apart because none of the rest of us were helpful.) I know people who think about it in the morning, I know people who buy stuff with the vague idea of they could do something with mince later this week ... but no one I know plans their weekly meals. :confused:

    The other problem is, it doesn't seem as though you could adapt what you want to buy to accommodate to allergies and individual tastes. For example, my father can't eat garlic and pepper, I can't eat bananas and dislike onions in anything but curry ... so if someone in my family used this service, we'd end up with a load of garlic, peppers, bananas and onions going to waste.
  14. Hopple's Avatar
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    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    Not a fan of Jenny Eclair? :p: She's not great, but I prefer her to Ruby Wax, Hugh Dennis or the bald one who looks like he should have played Gollum in the LOTR films.
    I can't quite put my finger on it, but she is (and Ruby too) just irritating. Ruby's easier to pin down, probably something to do with her not taking a consistent stance hence ending up praising and criticising the same aspect in someone just for a cheap laugh each time. Maybe they just don't give me the impression that they've thought about what they're saying, they've just said something silly hoping the audience feel obligated to laugh.

    Hugh and (I think you're referring to) Andy Parsons I just find unfunny rather than irritating, and I guess other people find them funny so that's fair enough
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    That's true, but I don't think people will do that with recipes.

    The main issue I see with Nick's idea is that it relies on quick and free delivery by the supermarkets, nationwide. It was basically a fast food delivery service, just you (attempt to) make it yourself. That's fine if you're buying in bulk, and if you're happy to wait maybe a few days to cook, but the way he sold it implied he just wanted people to find a recipe online and go "Oh, I'd quite like that for dinner" - supermarkets don't deliver on the day, and their delivery charges could easily double the cost of the meal. You're left having to arrange a delivery time for one expensive meal when really you could just copy down the ingredients and put them in with the rest of your weekly shopping (either online or in store).
    'Attempt' indeed...... I think it would work only for a big bulk buy, and how the delivery part would work is questionable - Ocado and Waitrose have parted company now I believe, so having a third party organisation get involved could be complex! But we do only get a limited view of what is said in the business plans unfortunately!


    I've never come across anyone who plans their meals far enough in advance to get use out of a delivery service (apart from a short lived attempt by my mother, which fell apart because none of the rest of us were helpful.) I know people who think about it in the morning, I know people who buy stuff with the vague idea of they could do something with mince later this week ... but no one I know plans their weekly meals.

    The other problem is, it doesn't seem as though you could adapt what you want to buy to accommodate to allergies and individual tastes. For example, my father can't eat garlic and pepper, I can't eat bananas and dislike onions in anything but curry ... so if someone in my family used this service, we'd end up with a load of garlic, peppers, bananas and onions going to waste.
    Hmmmm, well I know a couple of families who do plan what they're having, although they are just a couple! They use a delivery service as our local Tesco's is pretty shabby in what it has, but do buy extra stuff if they need it! Yeah, I'm vegetarian, so I will make Chilli con Carne without the mince, just replace it with Quorn, so whether that would work?! ahaaha, i think there is a lot of refining to do for the service, but on principle I like it!
  16. Hopple's Avatar
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    (Original post by Firecrackerchild)
    'Attempt' indeed...... I think it would work only for a big bulk buy, and how the delivery part would work is questionable - Ocado and Waitrose have parted company now I believe, so having a third party organisation get involved could be complex! But we do only get a limited view of what is said in the business plans unfortunately!
    If you click the multiquote button int eh bottom right of my post, it notifies me someone has replied, you're more likely to get a response that way

    To be fair to Nick, as long as people are looking up recipes online and finding ones they want to do, there is demand for that service. However, I just don't think it's deliverable to the extent that it'd be better than the user lumping the ingredients in with their normal shopping.
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    (Original post by DenmansDinner)
    That's why Aston is one of best Universities in Europe as it gives you the skills that employers want rather than a generic overview of what's required.
    Hopefully I'll go there in autumn too. Just need the grades
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    Just watched it So happy Ricky won. Though I think I'm going to have to refer to him as Richard from now on.
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    Just saw the final, didn't see any of the other episodes but loved the final. Think Ricky is a bit of a **** though but the strongest candidate at the end.
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    Ricky Hype lol
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