[lifeshard]

(Original post by Tommyjw)
His stats would disagree

Yeah because stats tell you everything don't they?

You need to watch Suarez play on a weekly basis (or even occasionally) to have any coherrent and knowledgable say on what he contributes to Liverpool. If you seriously don't believe that Suarez is an attacking threat in the box, creating chances on a whim then you're footballing knowledge is, less than basic to say the least.

But he is ineffective in front of goal, but to say he fails at creating is ridiculous.

[KingMessi]

(Original post by jam277)
To be honest, the changes needed are for the much younger players/not the dressing room characters, e.g. the mikels, kalous, maloudas etc. Not the main players like drogba, lampard, terry and cole, we may need to change them next season, but it should be gradual, terry still has it, cole can be replaced by bertrand, lampard with mceachran and terry with cahill/chalobah/bruma. So it's not that bad tbh. However, with malouda and kalou a new winger is definitely needed, preferably one who can play on both wings.

Seeing as the typical powerhouse chelsea team works fairly well, hulk will definitely suit us, but a player in the pedro mould would do great for us.

I don't disagree that Mikel, Kalou and Malouda need to be first on our exit list, along with Bosingwa. However, we still need strong replacements for Drogba, Terry and Cole bought or introduced next season. Yes, they still have something to offer, but can Drogba perform to the level of a twenty-goal-a-season striker? I doubt it. Can we bring in De Bruyne, Bertrand and Lukaku? We need to try...

[jam277]

(Original post by lifeshard)
Steven Gerrard is injured A LOT. This Everton game has been his best in a long time, so you can't say 'gerrard is there and does it'' off the back of that. Suarez has been our sole creator for the best part of 18 months (bar the ban obviously) and if you disagree with that, you don't watch Liverpool play. You're blind and stupid if you don't think Suarez is a great chance creator. He's just a woeful finisher. Did you not watch him maze through 4 or 5 United defenders for Kuyt to tap home? Or when he did it against Arsenal but shot straight into Szcesneys hands? He's great at wriggling past defenders and is suddenly through on goal but once he's there he just hasn't got that composure in front of goal and our other players don't crowd the box to gain something out of Suarez's hard work. It worked against Everton though. Carroll is supposed to be that number 9 that feeds off Suarez but Carroll's movement is atrocious, he has no awareness whatsoever.

Torres has looked okay. Yes he assists. But that's not what Torres is. Btw I think the commentator went on about how great Torre's cross was for about 5 years after he done it. Commentators really patronize Torres these days because everyone wants him to do well. He was the most likeable forward in the premier league and it was a joy to watch him. I feel really bad for the guy. It's like now he feels more comfortable hugging the byline getting the crosses in for someone else to finish, then beating a couple of defenders and slotting it home himself. It's really sad to see.

Torres did that against napoli. Anyway, I agree with your second paragraph. Torres has turned from great and unplayable to a good player, sort of like kaka at real madrid.

Gerrard performed vs newcastle as well in a 30 min cameo.

[iRush]

(Original post by KingMessi)
Whilst there is a lot of merit to the suggestion of gradual change over revolution (especially given the unquestionable failure of Villas-Boas's revolution), it doesn't change the fact that a significant number of changes have to be made this summer. I never thought Cole or Lampard should be sold immediately, and I was ambivalent over Drogba and Terry, but there are certain players who have to be sold this summer and replaced by relatively young, high-quality replacements. We need a manager who has the full backing of both players and board, and we need to attempt to sort out our backroom. Having Michael Emenalo as Technical Director is ludicrous, and we've made a lot of backroom betises recently. Nevertheless, our season has been reignited now: the FA Cup is definitely winnable and if we get a good draw in the Champions League quarter-finals we have a good chance of exceeding the expectations that we could've had three weeks ago.

I was referring to the just the old guard but you're absolutely spot on, the main changes we need to make in the short term i.e summer is to replace Malouda, Kalou, Mikel etc, I mean if you look at our benches in recent games or this season infact, there's hardly a person on there who can come on and turn a game around, if we look at City, they have De Jong, Dzeko, Nasri, Johnson to turn too on their bench whenever needed, they are some quality players. Closest we have to someone doing something off the bench is Kalou who has this knack of scoring late and random goals when we need them. We've all been crying and shouting for a proper quality winger, so that should be priority. If we continue to play this 4-2-3-1 system which RDM prefers then we'll def need one. Mata looks so comfortable and more involved in the game when he plays behind the striker. I was watching the Chelsea Napoli pre match views on Al Jazeera with Gary Linekar, Trevor Francis, Graeme Souness and Alan Shearer and Trevor Francis said oh what about Lampard, he doesn't suit this system as he can't belt forward cause he'll leave Essien exposed. Lampard's fantastic and all but I think we're going to need to build this new team around someone like Mata who's (I hope ) going to be there for years and is really young. Lamps is 33, Mata is 10 years younger so playing to his strength's would benefit us better.

[Isometrix]

Benfica QF

Barca/Milan SF

[Zerforax]

You guys should be favourites to make the semi-finals, that means an extra 4 CL games this season, along with trying to keep in the hunt for 4th.

Imo your league position is going to crumble.

[cfc1992]

(Original post by Zerforax)
You guys should be favourites to make the semi-finals, that means an extra 4 CL games this season, along with trying to keep in the hunt for 4th.

Imo your league position is going to crumble.

Do you think our mid-week game against Napoli will help our league position or have the opposite effect?

[iRush]

Great Draw against Benfica but we're going to be playing Barcelona or AC Milan

I hope this doesn't affect our league position ><

[Isometrix]

I think the Napoli win was a huge morale boost for us. If we get to the CL semi final, finish 4th in the league, and (slightly optimistic) win the FA cup, that would be more than enough for me.

[AMELIA-x]

Quite pleased with the quarter final draw, but the semi-finals would be extremely challenging if we were to get through!

[Zerforax]

(Original post by cfc1992)
Do you think our mid-week game against Napoli will help our league position or have the opposite effect?

In the short term, morale will have been boosted.

You'll roll Leicester over easily but then will feel City's backlash with Mancini needing a result, followed by a draw with Spurs imo.

[jam277]

(Original post by cfc1992)
Do you think our mid-week game against Napoli will help our league position or have the opposite effect?

Look at arsenals resurgence after the milan match, we're not going to crumble.

(Original post by Zerforax)
In the short term, morale will have been boosted.

You'll roll Leicester over easily but then will feel City's backlash with Mancini needing a result, followed by a draw with Spurs imo.

I'm not too scared about city tbh. We can force a draw if we really need to. If we play like that vs man city, we can nick a point even at the etihad. A gritty and ugly chelsea/inter/marseille style performance can see us nick a jammy 1-1 or something.

[Tommyjw]

(Original post by lifeshard)
Yeah because stats tell you everything don't they?

You need to watch Suarez play on a weekly basis (or even occasionally) to have any coherrent and knowledgable say on what he contributes to Liverpool. If you seriously don't believe that Suarez is an attacking threat in the box, creating chances on a whim then you're footballing knowledge is, less than basic to say the least.

But he is ineffective in front of goal, but to say he fails at creating is ridiculous.

I do watch him play. I watch most, if not all, the major team games for the whole season bar when I have to pick one due to them playing at the same time so rambling on about no other team fans knowing is just crap.

How is it ridiculous? if he has terrible assists, he fails at creating, simple as that, if you weren't such a biased kid you would see this shown in the games, like everyone else who watcher.

[stubear]

(Original post by stubear)
Anyone on here a member? How much roughly does it cost?

still need an answer

[Nut.]

(Original post by jam277)
Look at arsenals resurgence after the milan match, we're not going to crumble.

I think you'll have a better game against Milan away than Arsenal did, purely because Arsenal use the wings a LOT for attacking, and they had just been relaid when we played them and they were basically swamp quality.

In the CM you have more of a chance of competing so I'd be very surprised to see another 4-0 performance from AC.

[CB91]

(Original post by jam277)
Torres did that against napoli. Anyway, I agree with your second paragraph. Torres has turned from great and unplayable to a good player, sort of like kaka at real madrid.

Gerrard performed vs newcastle as well in a 30 min cameo.

No he didn't, he got pushed out wide and passed back, Suarez actually got passed 3 defenders and made an assist. And despite Suarez being a poor finisher he's still scored nearly 3 times as many as Torres since Jan '11. If you include international goals and appearances then it wouldn't look pretty for Torres.

[ChelseaFCCC]

how much are the tickets at home for chelsea vs benfica at stmaford bridge??

[WhatIsAUsername?]

(Original post by Tommyjw)
I do watch him play. I watch most, if not all, the major team games for the whole season bar when I have to pick one due to them playing at the same time so rambling on about no other team fans knowing is just crap.

How is it ridiculous? if he has terrible assists, he fails at creating, simple as that, if you weren't such a biased kid you would see this shown in the games, like everyone else who watcher.

It seems to me that you are obsessed with Luis Suarez. Does he bother you THAT much that you have to post about him in every football-related thread.

[Tommyjw]

(Original post by WhatIsAUsername?)
It seems to me that you are obsessed with Luis Suarez. Does he bother you THAT much that you have to post about him in every football-related thread.

Funny, given i dont start the conversations

Keep trying though

[Straight up G]

I would, strangely, love it if Chelsea won the European Cup. I've always favoured the big spending teams for some reason, I just like the idea of the most valuable players coming together to form some kind of super team, and under Mou, Chelsea were that. And they were denied by Rafa, by the post in Moscow, and then by the ridiculous refereeing in that semi against Barca. And you look at Chelsea's old guard, you look at Cech, Drogba, Essien, Lampard, Terry, Cole, the old guard, who dominated the Premier League for a long time, who came so close in Europe, and you just think they deserve a European Cup. The hunger that Drogba and Terry displayed against Napoli just makes them likeable to me for some reason. And while I generally hate Chelsea fans (they think they're entitled to more, from what is actually a pretty average squad), and I'd hate their celebrations at winning, I'd love it if Chelsea beat Barca and then won in the final, if justice was served...

Can't see it happening though