AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012

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  1. Bright.Inspiration.'s Avatar
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
    (Original post by Mero8)
    Anyone know how to revise organic synthesis? I think it's going to make me kill myself

    I'm just practicing questions... I think it's helping.

    I really don't get proton nmr... like I understand the theory but then when I do the questions im lost ... aaaaaahhh
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    (Original post by Bright.Inspiration.)
    I'm just practicing questions... I think it's helping.

    I really don't get proton nmr... like I understand the theory but then when I do the questions im lost ... aaaaaahhh
    In the same position as you the questions that make you 'identify' a molecule. I tend to struggle with, I always mess up the proton NMR Structure!
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    From what I know:

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    A1. +3 in hexahydroxochromate (III), +6 in tetraoxochromate (VI), (a.k.a. chromate (VI))

    A2. Been oxidised, as it has lost 3 electrons.

    B1. Primary / Secondary / Tertiary Alcohols

    C1. Reduction.

    C2. Become oxidised (remember, it is a redox reaction, so if something is reduced, something else must be oxidised).

    C3. Tertiary alcohols, potassium dichromate (VI) is not a strong enough oxidising agent, or you can say that tertiary alcohols cannot be oxidised.

    D1. Isomers must be tertiary alcohols, as they cannot be oxidised by potassium dichromate (VI): 2-methylpentan-2-ol; 3-methylpentan-3-ol; 2,3-dimethylbutan-2-ol.
    Can I just say a MASSIVE thanks for all the info. You have no idea how helpful it is!! Major thanks pal! Xxx
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    In the same position as you the questions that make you 'identify' a molecule. I tend to struggle with, I always mess up the proton NMR Structure!
    Lol I just end up drawing random molecules and counting the hydrogens, and then realising i've done it wrong... :|
    I think its the worst topic
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    In the same position as you the questions that make you 'identify' a molecule. I tend to struggle with, I always mess up the proton NMR Structure!
    I can't do this either!
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
    Really need to start revising this again lol! it's been days since I revised it last

    how is everyone doing?

    i'm assuming you're all busy with other exam revision? :holmes:
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    Really need to start revising this again lol! it's been days since I revised it last

    how is everyone doing?

    i'm assuming you're all busy with other exam revision? :holmes:
    I had a Bio retake on Monday so been revising for that and also quite a bit for the June exam... not a lot of Chem :\

    Going to get back to it today, as have the mock on Friday (Jan 2012 paper, trying to stop myself from looking!)

    4 weeks today
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    (Original post by skylight17)
    I had a Bio retake on Monday so been revising for that and also quite a bit for the June exam... not a lot of Chem :\

    Going to get back to it today, as have the mock on Friday (Jan 2012 paper, trying to stop myself from looking!)

    4 weeks today
    I've not been focusing much on CHEM4 either Other exams :eek:

    :mmm: I've already done the Jan'12 paper, but made sure I got rid of the paper so hopefully I will forget the questions :lol:

    I can't revise any chemistry till my final AS resit is over its on the 26th so annoying!
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    Really need to start revising this again lol! it's been days since I revised it last

    how is everyone doing?

    i'm assuming you're all busy with other exam revision? :holmes:

    I understand most of chem4 but some of the questions throw me off a bit :/

    Did anyone do the chem1 retake ?
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
    (Original post by Bright.Inspiration.)
    I understand most of chem4 but some of the questions throw me off a bit :/

    Did anyone do the chem1 retake ?
    Quite a few people I know did, they found it a weird paper on the whole. Also I did go through the paper, seemed a little odd especially the hard concentration working out one :lolwut:
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    Quite a few people I know did, they found it a weird paper on the whole. Also I did go through the paper, seemed a little odd especially the hard concentration working out one :lolwut:
    Weird is a good word to describe it.. There were no definitions etc aswell..
    On that conc question I forgot to dive the number by 5 so I must have lost like 2 marks there alone fml. Made some silly mistakes but hoping for over 90ums .. Optimism is the way lol
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
    This paper is damn hard. Damn hard indeed. How has everyone been revising, from the book + past papers? That's what I've been doing.
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    (Original post by callmenighthawk)
    This paper is damn hard. Damn hard indeed. How has everyone been revising, from the book + past papers? That's what I've been doing.
    Exactly that! I think they're going to try make us apply the content much more though. Which isn't bad I guess, just hopefully they wont try and give trick question :facepalm:
    (Original post by Bright.Inspiration.)
    Weird is a good word to describe it.. There were no definitions etc aswell..
    On that conc question I forgot to dive the number by 5 so I must have lost like 2 marks there alone fml. Made some silly mistakes but hoping for over 90ums .. Optimism is the way lol
    I'm sure you've done fine :yep:
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    Exactly that! I think they're going to try make us apply the content much more though. Which isn't bad I guess, just hopefully they wont try and give trick question :facepalm:
    Definitely, I too have retaken the unit 1 exam on the 15th (and embarrassingly in January, too ) and both have required more apply content & thinking rather than stuff straight out the textbook - which is good if you actually know your stuff.

    to whoever was asking about the moles question I also messed that up, times'd it by 1/7, but I think I knew virtually everything else and probably dropped 7 marks maximum, high 80s UMS probably, hopefully 90 .

    My teacher has made a pack of 60 questions for unit 4 which I'm currently going through which helps.
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    Definitely, I too have retaken the unit 1 exam on the 15th (and embarrassingly in January, too ) and both have required more apply content & thinking rather than stuff straight out the textbook - which is good if you actually know your stuff.

    to whoever was asking about the moles question I also messed that up, times'd it by 1/7, but I think I knew virtually everything else and probably dropped 7 marks maximum, high 80s UMS probably, hopefully 90 .

    My teacher has made a pack of 60 questions for unit 4 which I'm currently going through which helps.
    I've resat CHEM1 far too many times :awesome: Never again
    I think they're going to do a lot of the Equlibria & Kinetics but make us apply it Which isn't fun as it's just one of them topics where you think you know it...but then you don't know it lol
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
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    I've resat CHEM1 far too many times :awesome: Never again
    I think they're going to do a lot of the Equlibria & Kinetics but make us apply it Which isn't fun as it's just one of them topics where you think you know it...but then you don't know it lol
    Haha true that, in the empa where the slowest step was the first reaction I put the rate-determining step as the second step - so I've made an effort to try and understand it more.

    I found buffer solutions & pH quite hard, but once you think of things in term of H+... it's pretty easy. for example

    Ka = H+ x weak acid salt
    _____________________
    Weak acid

    H+ = Ka x Weak acid
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    Weak acid salt

    if a base is added, the pH is going to be slightly higher, so you want a smaller value for H+ (because it determines pH (conc does too)) so to get a smaller value you add the small conc of base to the salt and take it away from the weak acid.

    this helped me understand the whole process better, by looking at the equation and mathematically figuring out what was going to happen
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    Re: AQA CHEM4 - 13th June 2012
    process better, by looking at the equation and mathematically figuring out what was going to happen[/QUOTE]

    I think the pH, buffers and all of that isn't too bad. Just takes a little while to get your head around it oh and a TON of practice questions on it

    The rate stuff is just so annoying Ergh Proton NMR, still now getting the full marks for it! :unimpressed:
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    I'm not sure I fully understand the process so I will definitely go over it past papers and stuff more.

    emf can be a bit tricky, but we use a method for "ROOR" for drawing the emf cell, reduced oxidised || oxidised reduced, still need to understand when to use a salt bridge and other things though.

    Yeah proton NMR and CNMR can be tricky, especially CNMR for me.
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    Is there a PH5 topic? I think I'm weaker in PH5 in actual understanding the content.
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    (Original post by callmenighthawk)
    I'm not sure I fully understand the process so I will definitely go over it past papers and stuff more.

    emf can be a bit tricky, but we use a method for "ROOR" for drawing the emf cell, reduced oxidised || oxidised reduced, still need to understand when to use a salt bridge and other things though.

    Yeah proton NMR and CNMR can be tricky, especially CNMR for me.
    Isn't EMF CHEM5? I've done Chem5
    (Original post by callmenighthawk)
    Is there a PH5 topic? I think I'm weaker in PH5 in actual understanding the content.
    What's PH5? Not seen that before :dontknow:
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