Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdown?
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowPeople actually having a say in their own lives goes against the liberal paradigm. They might have illiberal opinions!(Original post by pr0view)
I'm sure an agreement can be reached through direct democracy not some stingy council.
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowFPTP ensures no one but Labour/Tories/Libs gets any proportion of influence without a ridiculous proportion of the support. Even Lib Dems are pretty obsolete and they're supposedly in "power".(Original post by whyumadtho)
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowI'm sure we could "educate" these clearly bigoted people.(Original post by Bonged.)
People actually having a say in their own lives goes against the liberal paradigm. They might have illiberal opinions!
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowMosqueist?(Original post by effofex)
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowNo you haven't. You have linked it to the presence of particular criminal persons, not a building.
Nothing is stopping people from running for PM/MP. If people like their policies they will vote for them.If the majority of the populace wishes to limit immigration and opposes multiculturalism, shouldn't one of the main parties represent these views? Alot of people that oppose multiculturalism also oppose THE HOLOCAUST so dislike the bnp. Moron.
Source them and I will give you my verdict.What would be the point you wouldn't accept the poll because it didn't poll every single person in the country.
Concurrently, people had the right to form a party that opposed this paradigm, but they didn't.It's only been that way post 60s. That paradigm has only been achieved by restricting the rights of the majority of British people.
I'm sure an amiable agreement can be reached. Without a real-life situation with knowledge of any alternative parameters I can't evaluate properly.The populace of the town where it's going to be built emphatically don't want it? -
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowI have no problem with restricting a building because of its aesthetic incongruity.(Original post by pr0view)
I'm sure an agreement can be reached through direct democracy not some stingy council.
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People had a vote on that and didn't want it changed.(Original post by pr0view)
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowEnoch Powell did and other politicians ran him out of office. He had 80-90 percent support from the populace.(Original post by whyumadtho)
No you haven't. You have linked it to the presence of particular criminal persons, not a building.
Nothing is stopping people from running for PM/MP. If people like their policies they will vote for them.
Source them and I will give you my verdict.
Concurrently, people had the right to form a party that opposed this paradigm, but they didn't.
I'm sure an amiable agreement can be reached. Without a real-life situation with knowledge of any alternative parameters I can't evaluate properly.
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowBecause family breakdown in Asian/Italian/Greek families just isn't an option. The (over)generalisation would be that Greek/Italian families are matriarchal, and Asian families patriarchal. Two of my best friends at UCL were Italian and Greek and the level of integration amongst their families - to an English person - was extreme.
I can't speak for Black Caribbean families, but this sort of hierarchical family framework has been breaking down amongst White British families since the '60s.Last edited by TurboCretin; 18-03-2012 at 18:22. -
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowElaborate? How did they '[run] him out of office'?(Original post by Bonged.)
Enoch Powell did and other politicians ran him out of office. He had 80-90 percent support from the populace.
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowMonotheist-ist?(Original post by pr0view)
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowGood, I would be much more democratic for the decision to be taken by the local people rather than their "representatives" would it not?I have no problem with restricting a building because of its aesthetic incongruity.
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowAbrahamic-monotheismism?(Original post by effofex)
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowI only said that because it directly affects them and they should rightfully have a say in it. Otherwise, they shouldn't be able to restrict a mosque just because it's a mosque. Council officials should primarily decide where it should go in respect to traffic implications, proximity to conflicting buildings, etc.(Original post by pr0view)
Good, I would be much more democratic for the decision to be taken by the local people rather than their "representatives" would it not?
Okay. Why aren't people voting for the BNP or National Front, or forming their own political parties if immigration and a false understanding of 'mutliculturalism' are manifest issues?I didn't want it changed, AV is the next least proportional system going, precisely the reason that the Conservatives were willing to let it go to a referendum rather than some PR system.Last edited by whyumadtho; 18-03-2012 at 18:36. -
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowPoor South Asians have low divorce rates, yet white people who are often more wealthy are also experiencing this.(Original post by whyumadtho)
Perhaps the hardships of socioeconomic deprivation combined with the general culture of family cohesiveness not being a strong expectation are responsible. -
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdow(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
I'm excluding black-African people because in my experience they tend to have quite strong family ties but obviously this is definitely the case for Asians/Chinese, Arabs and Italians/Greeks. I remember reading that over 50% of black Caribbean kids born in Britain are raised by a single mother whereas only 1% of Indian women give birth outside of wedlock. Is this a problem in society or does it not matter too much? Why is there such a big disparity along racial lines? With white people working class families tend to have a much higher rate of family breakdown as well.
Regarding the Caribbean phenomenon, I learnt that it stemmed from the trans-atlantic slave trade. Apparently, in Africa, most of our ancestors were very matriarchal and family values were very important. During slavery, enslaved men often saw the slave master rape various women on the plantation. Because of this, monotony became a thing of the past. It is now part of the afro-Caribbean male mindset that men should have relationships with numerous women.(Original post by whyumadtho)
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowI suppose socio-cultural influences are predominant, in this case. Being in economic hardship acts as a major stressor to any relationship, but South Asian families, broadly speaking, as a matter of culture may feel an increased obligation to be committed to each other during tough times.(Original post by TheHansa)
Poor South Asians have low divorce rates, yet white people who are often more wealthy are also experiencing this. -
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowEducate yourself.(Original post by whyumadtho)
Elaborate? How did they '[run] him out of office'?
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Re: Why do white people and black-Caribbean people have high rates of family breakdowBecause as I have said numerous times, people that oppose multiculturalism don't immediately support other BNP policies, like criminalising gays or denying the holocaust. I've never seen you respond to this.(Original post by whyumadtho)
I only said that because it directly affects them and they should rightfully have a say in it. Otherwise, they shouldn't be able to restrict a mosque just because it's a mosque. Council officials should primarily decide where it should go in respect to traffic implications, proximity to conflicting buildings, etc.
Okay. Why aren't people voting for the BNP or National Front, or forming their own political parties if immigration and a false understanding of 'mutliculturalism' are manifest issues?
