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Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: Destroy all churches

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/16/destroy-all-churches/

If the pope called for the destruction of all the mosques in Europe, the uproar would be cataclysmic. Pundits would lambaste the church, the White House would rush out a statement of deep concern, and rioters in the Middle East would kill each other in their grief. But when the most influential leader in the Muslim world issues a fatwa to destroy Christian churches, the silence is deafening.

On March 12, Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, declared that it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.” The ruling came in response to a query from a Kuwaiti delegation over proposed legislation to prevent construction of churches in the emirate. The mufti based his decision on a story that on his deathbed, Muhammad declared, “There are not to be two religions in the [Arabian] Peninsula.” This passage has long been used to justify intolerance in the kingdom. Churches have always been banned in Saudi Arabia, and until recently Jews were not even allowed in the country. Those wishing to worship in the manner of their choosing must do so hidden away in private, and even then the morality police have been known to show up unexpectedly and halt proceedings.

This is not a small-time radical imam trying to stir up his followers with fiery hate speech. This was a considered, deliberate and specific ruling from one of the most important leaders in the Muslim world. It does not just create a religious obligation for those over whom the mufti has direct authority; it is also a signal to others in the Muslim world that destroying churches is not only permitted but mandatory.

The Obama administration ignores these types of provocations at its peril. The White House has placed international outreach to Muslims at the center of its foreign policy in an effort to promote the image of the United States as an Islam-friendly nation. This cannot come at the expense of standing up for the human rights and religious liberties of minority groups in the Middle East. The region is a crucial crossroads. Islamist radicals are leading the rising political tide against the authoritarian, secularist old order. They are testing the waters in their relationship with the outside world, looking for signals of how far they can go in imposing their radical vision of a Shariah-based theocracy. Ignoring provocative statements like the mufti’s sends a signal to these groups that they can engage in the same sort of bigotry and anti-Christian violence with no consequences.

Mr. Obama’s outreach campaign to the Muslim world has failed to generate the good will that he expected. In part, this was because he felt it was better to pander to prejudice than to command respect. When members of the Islamic establishment call for the religious equivalent of ethnic cleansing, the leader of the free world must respond or risk legitimizing the oppression that follows. The United States should not bow to the extremist dictates of the grand mufti, no matter how desperate the White House is for him to like us.


Indeed, imagine if the pope said that about mosques etc.
Saudi Arabia is going backwards as time goes forwards


^Gets you thinking
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It's like Benjamin Button.


Tbh though, this was a contender for the US leadership, who we will never hear from again, whereas the thread has an actual leader saying churches must be destroyed.
Reply 5
Crazy people say crazy things. Yawn

The world pays them about as much attention as they deserve- 0.
Reply 6


I think there's a slight difference between an American politician pandering up to anti-Muslim attitudes in order to further his career and an influential religious figure effectively declaring war on another religion in a region where Christians are already persecuted and religious figures such as the Grand Mufti hold considerable influence.
Reply 7
In before Muslims calling on the person being unIslamic/not a true muslim even though he's from Islam's founding state.
Despite not being a religious person myself, I believe in religious tolerance. You can't quite get as intolerant as this. All I can say is that I am glad that I live in a country where such intolerance is not as widespread.

The normal events that occur from this are a backlash of extremist christians who wish to highlight Islamic intolerance (such as this speech) as a means to justify acts of intolerance towards Islam. I think what we can learn from this is that we should not step down to this level of intolerance but rather show how tolerant we are as a nation and set an example.
So what? It's not like he's going to go ahead with it. Why pay attention to the this nonsensical stuff when it doesn't represent the majority? Ignore it, move on.
Reply 10
Saudi Arabia is the toilet of the Arab World.
I'd be cranky too, with a name like 'Grand Mufti'...
Saudi Arabia is on the whole a racist backwater ****hole, my uncle worked there for a year for some oil company he lived in a compound and hated every minute of it there is a distinct social order of Saudis>Whites>Blacks>Asians>Women and the religious police are a nightmare he said he would never go back it's the worst place he's been to and he has worked in Iraq and Afghantistan aswell that tells you how bad it is in Saudi for non natives.
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Reply 13
Original post by Vintage <3
So what? It's not like he's going to go ahead with it. Why pay attention to the this nonsensical stuff when it doesn't represent the majority? Ignore it, move on.


In fairness, Grand Mufti is the highest official of religious law in Sunni countries no..? By the way this guy is a member of the Al Ash-Sheikh family who are the descendants of Abd al-Wahhab who founded the Wahhabi movement so these sorts of comments are hardly a surprise. Fact is this guy is the leader of the Saudi Arabian state religion and all it's networks around the world so he does represent quite a lot of people actually...

Anyway this is a disgusting thing to say, and is worrying given the proxies that the Saudis have in places like Egypt where there is a large Coptic community
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I don't understand how Wahhabism is so popular in Saudi. It is the most hateful and backward Islamic school...
Reply 15
Original post by yomomalomo
I don't understand how Wahhabism is so popular in Saudi. It is the most hateful and backward Islamic school...


Because the chief proponents of wahhabism made a pact to support the Al Saud family if they got to control the religious output of Saudi Arabia.

The descendants of Ibn Abd al-Wahhab are this guy and his family, they have a symbiotic relationship with the Al-Sauds, they use religion to support the Saudi royals and in return they get to run the state religion and be the religious authority responsible for being the custodian of the two holy mosques. It is popular in Saudi because most of the people are religious fanatics and wahhabism has the trillions of dollars of petro-money poring into Saudi from the Americans and the Chinese to support it.
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The tone of this article is pretty obviously objectively biased. A well written article should start with a neutral stance.

Anyways, I have no idea why the Washington Times found the need to write about this. It was a comment made in a country thousands of miles away, nothing of which had to do with America. Its hard to see how this is any worse than militant secularists rag on about how "all religion is inherently evil and should be destroyed".
But ofcourse, anything a Muslim does is a threat to the Western world, the more outspoken the better they can rant about it.

I'll now wait for the negs.
Reply 17
The moment the Muslims of Saudi Arabia start destroying churches, Western countries should parachute cranes with attached wrecking balls into Christian communites to use against mosques.

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