Plan B: 'Chav is a derogatory phrase'

I had written a long comment that I was about to post, but then I realised that it will do nothing but annoy anyone who believes 'chavs' are the scum of the earth and it's their own fault. That is not what I want to do.

'Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.'

Now, I'm not very religious but I think there are some bits of the bible that everyone should follow, this being one of them. Please take a walk in their shoes; growing up without the same kind of parenting as most of us have, growing up very angry at the people who seem to have luxurious easy lives, growing up with a massive stereotype overshadowing them. Then going to school and being punished because they aren't like everyone else, then they make friends with people who are the same as them but that leads them to more violence etc.

This all started from a bad education system, clearly if we think we can fix the problem by sweeping it under the carpet then we have not been educated very well either.

Calling someone a "n*****" is unacceptable because you are mocking them for something they have no control over - ie. their skin colour. The same goes for calling someone a "faggot", you are making fun of them because of their sexuality which they have no control over.

"Chav" on the other hand is a term applied to people who chose to behave in a specific manner, and an unpleasant one at that, it is not something they cannot or should not change. "Chav" does not refer to lower class people, or people from a certain place, or people of a certain ethnicity. It refers to people who are violent and abusive and generally useless to society. I think you have to be a pretty horrible person to be labelled a chav by multiple people, I'm sure they can deal with being called a name considering the stuff they no doubt come out with.

If anyone wants proof that chav =/= poor, look at Katie Price / TOWIE / Made in Chelsea. They're like the Kings and Queens of Chav.

Err, why is Made In Chelsea in that group?

So anyone who doesn't have a bad family life is exempt from problems too?

Face it, life is tough; everyone has problems. The difference is that most people do not take their woes out on other people.

Surely they should use it as an incentive to better themselves and not follow the parents' route as opposed to throwing their toys out of their pram?

Have you ever watched it?? o.O It's just TOWIE but in a more expensive get-up.

Calling someone a "n*****" is unacceptable because you are mocking them for something they have no control over - ie. their skin colour. The same goes for calling someone a "faggot", you are making fun of them because of their sexuality which they have no control over.

"Chav" on the other hand is a term applied to people who chose to behave in a specific manner, and an unpleasant one at that, it is not something they cannot or should not change. "Chav" does not refer to lower class people, or people from a certain place, or people of a certain ethnicity. It refers to people who are violent and abusive and generally useless to society. I think you have to be a pretty horrible person to be labelled a chav by multiple people, I'm sure they can deal with being called a name considering the stuff they no doubt come out with.

So do you think you can't tell a chav based on appearance?

What about all these people that call Tulisa and Cheryl cole and cher lloyd chavs? Are they right?

I missed your edit:



It depends on their definition. Tracksuits should only be worn during sport, otherwise it creates a negative impression. Sorry, but it does.

They may come across as arrogant or annoying, but it really depends on how they speak / dress / attitude towards others. To be honest, I know middle class people I'd describe as chav like. However, do they go around burning bus shelters? Shouting abuse at elderly people? Greeting each other with 'oryt mate, we were propah munted last nite!'? Have little ambition beyond their nights out? Etc. People do not discriminate towards the working class, they can be perfectly well-mannered, so they're not 'chavs'.

I don't often agree with your posts but this one is bang on the money.

I will also add that it is incredibly insulting for people to say that calling someone a chav is a dig at how they are working class etc. As if all working class people are chavs. Piss off.

Being a chav is all about the attitude and what you do.

Do you abuse random people in the street for no reason?

Do you drink white lightening down the park with your homies at night?

Do you call your kids Chardonnay etc?
Do you dress in trackies all the time?
Are you showing a complete unwillingness to learn anything?

If so, you are a chav. If not, you are not a chav. So people who say this equals working class can go do one.

I don't think you can. Tulisa in her teenage years would be what most people call a chav but i don't think she was actually violent, just wore stereotypical 'chav' clothes. She certainly can't be called a chav now, not too sure about the other too but I've never seen any 'chavs' that look like Cher Lloyd or Cheryl Cole though.

why do those matter?

why do those matter?

All three of them are chavs: Cheryl Cole attacked a toilet cleaner in 2002 in Surrey, have you heard Tulisa's accent? And Cher Lloyd is revolting.

I don't think you can. Tulisa in her teenage years would be what most people call a chav but i don't think she was actually violent, just wore stereotypical 'chav' clothes. She certainly can't be called a chav now, not too sure about the other too but I've never seen any 'chavs' that look like Cher Lloyd or Cheryl Cole though.

This right here is the problem. Chav is a code word.