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  1. Amit92's Avatar
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    Hey,

    Just a quick Q. I was wondering which of the two stated above is better regarded for Economics.

    Would one of the above give me better career prospects than the other?

    Much advice is appreciated!

    Thanks
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    SOAS
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    SOAS.
  4. FDR's Avatar
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    Hey,

    Just a quick Q. I was wondering which of the two stated above is better regarded for Economics.

    Would one of the above give me better career prospects than the other?

    Much advice is appreciated!

    Thanks
    its pretty hard to compare them straight up because SOAS' economics course is focused on particular regions of the world, whereas Queen Mary's is an ordinary economics course.

    If you have an interest in the economics of africa, asia and the middle east, as well as in development economics, then SOAS is the better course for you.

    As for career prospects, I suppose they will be similar at both, although because of SOAS specialist nature, they get visited by a lot of employers who do target SOAS because of this (e.g Standard Chartered, CRCC Asia)
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    its pretty hard to compare them straight up because SOAS' economics course is focused on particular regions of the world, whereas Queen Mary's is an ordinary economics course.

    If you have an interest in the economics of africa, asia and the middle east, as well as in development economics, then SOAS is the better course for you.

    As for career prospects, I suppose they will be similar at both, although because of SOAS specialist nature, they get visited by a lot of employers who do target SOAS because of this (e.g Standard Chartered, CRCC Asia)
    I see, I like the course structure at SOAS..I'd rather focus on 4 in-depth modules at SOAS rather than skim 8-9modules per year at QMUL.

    My aim is to break into Sales & Trading at an IB...I know it's not a target though I do have one-year work experience within an investment bank in equities middle-office and some accountancy work experience in tax, audit and financial advisory and some other ECs.

    So I'm hoping it works out! I did one year at UoManchester of Law and disliked the course as it was not for me, so I did a lot of partying etc...so really want to focus on my degree this time and set a solid future out.

    Would you care to share your experiences of SOAS
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    Also SOAS v Manchester? Any difference here?
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    QMUL
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    I see, I like the course structure at SOAS..I'd rather focus on 4 in-depth modules at SOAS rather than skim 8-9modules per year at QMUL.

    My aim is to break into Sales & Trading at an IB...I know it's not a target though I do have one-year work experience within an investment bank in equities middle-office and some accountancy work experience in tax, audit and financial advisory and some other ECs.

    So I'm hoping it works out! I did one year at UoManchester of Law and disliked the course as it was not for me, so I did a lot of partying etc...so really want to focus on my degree this time and set a solid future out.

    Would you care to share your experiences of SOAS
    I didn't apply to SOAS in the end, but was considering it very strongly for a while, and even visited it with a friend who did end up applying there in the end.

    SOAS course structure is good, and you would be taught by some of the best in their respective fields. Plus, SOAS seems to attract a lot of high caliber applicants - its average UCAS tariff is quite high.

    SOAS isn't a "target" (although I find that term dubious, as its unclear what constitutes as a university being a "target" in terms of number of visits etc) in the sense that it isn't visited by every big investment bank or consultancy, but I had a look at their careers fairs and talks, and a lot of well known and less well known banks do hold events at SOAS because they want employees with a good knowledge of the region in which many operate, and some bigger firms such as HSBC and Deloitte also hold events. The fact that you have experience will doubtless help you, but at the end of the day, getting a good degree mark is the most important thing - a lot of students think that university prestige is all that matters, and that getting a degree is just a formality and they can get a job based simply on the name of their university, but this isn't the case.

    Having said all that, a lot of students there seemed frustrated at a lot of things, such as the fact that the feedback on their work isn't very good, a lot felt overworked, and SOAS doesn't have a great deal of economics students graduating with a first, which may suggest the quality of teaching as good as it could be.
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    I didn't apply to SOAS in the end, but was considering it very strongly for a while, and even visited it with a friend who did end up applying there in the end.

    SOAS course structure is good, and you would be taught by some of the best in their respective fields. Plus, SOAS seems to attract a lot of high caliber applicants - its average UCAS tariff is quite high.

    SOAS isn't a "target" (although I find that term dubious, as its unclear what constitutes as a university being a "target" in terms of number of visits etc) in the sense that it isn't visited by every big investment bank or consultancy, but I had a look at their careers fairs and talks, and a lot of well known and less well known banks do hold events at SOAS because they want employees with a good knowledge of the region in which many operate, and some bigger firms such as HSBC and Deloitte also hold events. The fact that you have experience will doubtless help you, but at the end of the day, getting a good degree mark is the most important thing - a lot of students think that university prestige is all that matters, and that getting a degree is just a formality and they can get a job based simply on the name of their university, but this isn't the case.

    Having said all that, a lot of students there seemed frustrated at a lot of things, such as the fact that the feedback on their work isn't very good, a lot felt overworked, and SOAS doesn't have a great deal of economics students graduating with a first, which may suggest the quality of teaching as good as it could be.
    I see, I see..how you didn't end up applying, where are you now? I see what you mean but I suppose to break into a big investment bank..it is possible if you work enough.

    My aim would be if I end up at SOAS to just work, work and work. The course looks rather interesting compared to QMUL. But the student satisfaction seems better at QMUL than SOAS =/...hard choices..would you have any additional information that may help?

    Thanks
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    I see, I see..how you didn't end up applying, where are you now? I see what you mean but I suppose to break into a big investment bank..it is possible if you work enough.

    My aim would be if I end up at SOAS to just work, work and work. The course looks rather interesting compared to QMUL. But the student satisfaction seems better at QMUL than SOAS =/...hard choices..would you have any additional information that may help?

    Thanks
    Grades permitting, I'll be at Nottingham next year. I didn't apply to SOAS because even though I do have an interest the region SOAS specialises in, I don't know whether I will still be interested in a year, or two years time, as I'm still uncertain as to what I want to do, so I decided against it.

    I think that the quality of SOAS economics course is very good, but for a career in finance, you may be better off at Manchester - they are visited by a lot of Banks, and so you'll be able to get to talk to more people about a career in finance.

    where else are you planning to apply to?
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    (Original post by FDR)
    Grades permitting, I'll be at Nottingham next year. I didn't apply to SOAS because even though I do have an interest the region SOAS specialises in, I don't know whether I will still be interested in a year, or two years time, as I'm still uncertain as to what I want to do, so I decided against it.

    I think that the quality of SOAS economics course is very good, but for a career in finance, you may be better off at Manchester - they are visited by a lot of Banks, and so you'll be able to get to talk to more people about a career in finance.

    where else are you planning to apply to?
    I'm still looking...and I did one-year of Law at Manchester..though have a lot of friends in 2nd yr Economics, and they're struggling to find interships...but as I have experience would having SOAS over Manchester on my CV and vice-versa make much of a difference tbh?

    And I'm thinking the SOAS course is quite well focused and interesting than a mainstream economics course, but it allows optional modules at other UoL universities, so surely you could make it a little more mainstream if you wanted right?
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    SSSOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS SSSSS

    OR

    SOAS.

    Guess which one would be better for Econ...?!?!!

    OMG!!! ITS SOAS!!!!..
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    SOAS...qm is pretty bad for econ...at least with Sosa you can pretend you were interested in Africa and Asia and their rising economies you thought soas was the best choice and chose it over lse and ucl for that reason. I think that's legit- obviously lots of business is done with asia. This is for internships and jobs...I mean you may want to check out the units on an open day...if you left uni after a year you'll know it can be important to find a good fit.
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    General consus says SOAS then..
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    IB's do NOT target Manc, those are retailers with sales and back office functions.

    I've seen a few names at SOAS mainly related to the special nature of their courses
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    General consus says SOAS then..
    Did you firm SOAS then?
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