[StefonGrant]

I'm looking to study a Graphic Design degree in future but for now I have been offered to do a foundation art & design course at both LCC and Ravensbourne.

Can anyone just point out their views on both and which they prefer and why?

Thanks

[me_]

I think Ravensbourne would be more suitable.

[Kai Hiwatari]

I'd say LCC - they have a lot more facilities for graphic design and are known for being one of the top in the design industry. Ravensbourne only have digital facilities (no traditional darkroom and no printmaking facilities) and graphic design is definitely not all about digital media. Thats just my opinion though! Have you visited them both?

[LauraGainer]

I agree with LCC that is the course whichii am doing too they have brilliant facilities and connections plus live briefs and lots of work experience x

[StefonGrant]

(Original post by Kai Hiwatari)
I'd say LCC - they have a lot more facilities for graphic design and are known for being one of the top in the design industry. Ravensbourne only have digital facilities (no traditional darkroom and no printmaking facilities) and graphic design is definitely not all about digital media. Thats just my opinion though! Have you visited them both?

Thank you everyone for your replies, yes I visited them both when I did my interviews but I'm going to a Ravensbourne open day on the 26th to have another look and ask quetions.

[StefonGrant]

(Original post by me_)
I think Ravensbourne would be more suitable.

Why? Reasons? Any experience with them?

[StefonGrant]

(Original post by LauraGainer)
I agree with LCC that is the course whichii am doing too they have brilliant facilities and connections plus live briefs and lots of work experience x

Cool, so you're on the foundation course? Is there any bad things you can say about it so far or is it perfect lol?

[StefonGrant]

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[me_]

(Original post by StefonGrant)
Why? Reasons? Any experience with them?

Apparently their graphic design course is really good, facilities are great and they have 'strong industry links' but every uni says that.

[LauraGainer]

(Original post by StefonGrant)
Cool, so you're on the foundation course? Is there any bad things you can say about it so far or is it perfect lol?

Not that i can think of i love the uni did u go to the open day x

[LauraGainer]

(Original post by LauraGainer)
Not that i can think of i love the uni did u go to the open day x

Ah no sorry i am not currently on the FDA course i am going this year

[conorsully]

Well i know its a bit late, but if you're going for graphic design, Ravensbourne is the best, they have a very high employment rate of the selected industry. Ill be honest digital media is the only way forward especially in graphic design. Traditional media can be too easily replicated by a computer and probably at a faster speed. The real money is in the digital media, and Ravensbourne go further than just that foundation year, they look beyond that, unlike pretentious colleges like CSM, who focus on ideas, and thats it. Ravensbourne has a banging location as well. Oh also, i'm aiming for a career in graphic design/illustration and I've been accepted for Ravensbourne foundation, so maybe see you there

[StefonGrant]

(Original post by conorsully)
Well i know its a bit late, but if you're going for graphic design, Ravensbourne is the best, they have a very high employment rate of the selected industry. Ill be honest digital media is the only way forward especially in graphic design. Traditional media can be too easily replicated by a computer and probably at a faster speed. The real money is in the digital media, and Ravensbourne go further than just that foundation year, they look beyond that, unlike pretentious colleges like CSM, who focus on ideas, and thats it. Ravensbourne has a banging location as well. Oh also, i'm aiming for a career in graphic design/illustration and I've been accepted for Ravensbourne foundation, so maybe see you there

Congrats on being accepted! Thanks for your input, I recently attended a open day there and I think I'm leaning more towards Ravensbourne so hopefully I will see you lol

[StefonGrant]

(Original post by LauraGainer)
Not that i can think of i love the uni did u go to the open day x

Yeah I went it was great, got there late but still never missed anything The facilities are just amazing can't wait to study there! However I'm going to a LCC open day in April so I'll see how that goes, I'll post my thoughts on here.

[StefonGrant]

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[crook]

(Original post by conorsully)
Well i know its a bit late, but if you're going for graphic design, Ravensbourne is the best, they have a very high employment rate of the selected industry. Ill be honest digital media is the only way forward especially in graphic design. Traditional media can be too easily replicated by a computer and probably at a faster speed. The real money is in the digital media, and Ravensbourne go further than just that foundation year, they look beyond that, unlike pretentious colleges like CSM, who focus on ideas, and thats it. Ravensbourne has a banging location as well. Oh also, i'm aiming for a career in graphic design/illustration and I've been accepted for Ravensbourne foundation, so maybe see you there

I agree, what a load of pretentious old toddle, focusing on 'ideas'.
HELLO!?!? When are they gonna learn that we have COMPUTERS now a days, we don't need this idea *******s. Ideas are so old fashioned. Digital has completely reinvented the way we think about design, it's almost entirely wiped out ideas! I suggest to everyone wanting to get into graphic design to forget about all this idea crap, they're just fooling themselves that original thought is valuable and sought after - the real do$h is in being a photoshop wizard!

[Kai Hiwatari]

(Original post by conorsully)
Well i know its a bit late, but if you're going for graphic design, Ravensbourne is the best, they have a very high employment rate of the selected industry. Ill be honest digital media is the only way forward especially in graphic design. Traditional media can be too easily replicated by a computer and probably at a faster speed. The real money is in the digital media, and Ravensbourne go further than just that foundation year, they look beyond that, unlike pretentious colleges like CSM, who focus on ideas, and thats it. Ravensbourne has a banging location as well. Oh also, i'm aiming for a career in graphic design/illustration and I've been accepted for Ravensbourne foundation, so maybe see you there

I completely disagree with everything you've just said here =P Obviously its just my opinion, but digital is definitely not the only way forward in graphic design and by thinking that, you're limiting yourself immensely. A lot of traditional media cannot be replicated by the computer, you just can't get the same effect. Its upto you if you just want to spend all of your time learning software sitting in front of a mac creating everything digitally but the problem with that is you'll just blend in with every other digital designer out there - you won't have anything to make you stand out unless if you obviously come up with an amazing technique or something. Also not all clients necessarily want just a digital outcome so you'll be limiting your consumer market as well. Another thing is that recently there has been a lot of traditional, crafted design work and this has apparently been in response to people getting bored with digital work. And i'm gonna guess that if everyone takes your views and only uses digital media, traditional work will re-emerge again and again in the future.

I'm not saying its bad to learn how to use software, you definitely need to learn it, its just that its another tool to have. Graphic Designers should have the ability to use a range of media while also communicating good ideas. Its about being well-rounded. And tbh if you want to be a designer surely you WANT to learn how to use lots of processes and try new things even if you find you don't like them much afterwards. Thats the opinion of a first year GD student anyway =)

[StefonGrant]

(Original post by Kai Hiwatari)
I completely disagree with everything you've just said here =P Obviously its just my opinion, but digital is definitely not the only way forward in graphic design and by thinking that, you're limiting yourself immensely. A lot of traditional media cannot be replicated by the computer, you just can't get the same effect. Its upto you if you just want to spend all of your time learning software sitting in front of a mac creating everything digitally but the problem with that is you'll just blend in with every other digital designer out there - you won't have anything to make you stand out unless if you obviously come up with an amazing technique or something. Also not all clients necessarily want just a digital outcome so you'll be limiting your consumer market as well. Another thing is that recently there has been a lot of traditional, crafted design work and this has apparently been in response to people getting bored with digital work. And i'm gonna guess that if everyone takes your views and only uses digital media, traditional work will re-emerge again and again in the future.

I'm not saying its bad to learn how to use software, you definitely need to learn it, its just that its another tool to have. Graphic Designers should have the ability to use a range of media while also communicating good ideas. Its about being well-rounded. And tbh if you want to be a designer surely you WANT to learn how to use lots of processes and try new things even if you find you don't like them much afterwards. Thats the opinion of a first year GD student anyway =)

Where do you study?

[Kai Hiwatari]

(Original post by StefonGrant)
Where do you study?

Nottingham Trent =) I chose it because we're encouraged to use both traditional and digital media and have the facilities for both so you can see where my opinion comes from haha xD

[l.j.s18ftw]

(Original post by Kai Hiwatari)
I completely disagree with everything you've just said here =P Obviously its just my opinion, but digital is definitely not the only way forward in graphic design and by thinking that, you're limiting yourself immensely. A lot of traditional media cannot be replicated by the computer, you just can't get the same effect. Its upto you if you just want to spend all of your time learning software sitting in front of a mac creating everything digitally but the problem with that is you'll just blend in with every other digital designer out there - you won't have anything to make you stand out unless if you obviously come up with an amazing technique or something. Also not all clients necessarily want just a digital outcome so you'll be limiting your consumer market as well. Another thing is that recently there has been a lot of traditional, crafted design work and this has apparently been in response to people getting bored with digital work. And i'm gonna guess that if everyone takes your views and only uses digital media, traditional work will re-emerge again and again in the future.

I'm not saying its bad to learn how to use software, you definitely need to learn it, its just that its another tool to have. Graphic Designers should have the ability to use a range of media while also communicating good ideas. Its about being well-rounded. And tbh if you want to be a designer surely you WANT to learn how to use lots of processes and try new things even if you find you don't like them much afterwards. Thats the opinion of a first year GD student anyway =)

Your opinion is wrong.
To say because someone is a digital based graphic designer (which what most employers want or they would hire an artist) their work will just blend in with every other person doing computer based art is idiotic. Does your work blend with every other traditional artist? No. Also what traditional media relevant to graphic design cannot be replicated by the computer?
What that person probably means by digital is the way forward is that everything is going digital and that is what the majority of graphic design jobs involve, your design doesn't have to be created digitally but it will most likely have to be applied digitally.

But if you graduate a graphic design degree with no ability to design for iphones, androids, websites you are going to be the one at a disadvantage.