Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?
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Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?Considering how liberal and tolerant our societies have become and the increasing cultural awareness, especially in retrospect to the holocaust. Why is there a growing trend of antisemitism in the world.
In school playgrounds its become the new thing to call someone a jew and discrete phrases like that, even western asians at my school openly denounce jews as viscious zionists (presumable because of israel and palestine) but its not exactly just.
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?People believe Jews run the world, alot of muslims dislike the actions of israel so they dislike jews but they do not know that some jews also oppose israel.
Also I find people tend to blame others if they have no job etc, so yh somehow that may a jews fault in their view.Last edited by Study; 20-03-2012 at 22:03. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?Seems to be a habit of humanity to pick on one societal group and demonise them, without particularly knowing why.
It's not helped by the easily distinguished features of hasidic jews, making them a target for morons and thugs the world over. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?I've only experienced anti-Semitism a couple of times from some crazy Christians but then I don't look Jewish at all so maybe that's why I don't get much hassle
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?People have disliked jews for a very long time one example would be the portrayal of Faggin in Olivier Twist who is a Jew,its just an everlasting steryotype of the greedy bad jew
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?A lot of anti-semitism comes from within Christianity, and modern anti-semitism can still to be found within Christian circles. The word 'Jew' is often linked to 'Zionism', and Zionism is perceived as a nationalistic racist political movement (which it may well be) with some religious elements to it. The West, in particular the UK and the US, has had a peculiar relationship with the Jews, which has led to a lot of conspiracy theories, particularly concerning society, finance, economics, big business, and banking. Christians often believe that they see the bigger picture at work; that Jews run the world, and have monopolised the banking and finance institutions to this day.
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?Generally, it's the uneducated who tend to be anti-semites. And/or religious people.(Original post by AverageExcellence)
Considering how liberal and tolerant our societies have become and the increasing cultural awareness, especially in retrospect to the holocaust. Why is there a growing trend of antisemitism in the world.
In school playgrounds its become the new thing to call someone a jew and discrete phrases like that, even western asians at my school openly denounce jews as viscious zionists (presumable because of israel and palestine) but its not exactly just.
And recently we have the norwegian massacres and the French ones just yesterday.
Some Christians see Jews as Christ killers, some Muslims believe that Jews should be slain as per the Hadith, and some idiots believe that Jews run the world via a conspiracy- oh please- as if we'd be in such a massive economic/social mess if we had Jews running the world.
Then there's the Israel/Palestine issue, which, despite being very minor compared to other world events (see: Darfur, famine in North Korea, war in the Congo, slaughter in Syria) is blown way out of proportion because of the religious elements of the conflict. No one would care about Israel or Palestine if it wasn't about religion, specifically Jews vs Muslims. It would otherwise just be another tiny strip of land that in the usual historical fashion has been invaded by a different people to the previous occupants, which is by no means an anomaly in the grand scheme of things.
Also, interestingly, Jews tend to have a higher standard of living than others- envy is another factor, as it usually is for any silly hatred.Last edited by navarre; 24-03-2012 at 00:24. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?How is that anti-semitism?(Original post by AverageExcellence)
Considering how liberal and tolerant our societies have become and the increasing cultural awareness, especially in retrospect to the holocaust. Why is there a growing trend of antisemitism in the world.
In school playgrounds its become the new thing to call someone a jew and discrete phrases like that, even western asians at my school openly denounce jews as viscious zionists (presumable because of israel and palestine) but its not exactly just.
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?stereotypes are always there, lurking in the back stage,eager to come out front and put on an unapologetic show for everyone to see. I suspect the old testament had a lot to do with this. Jews being the chosen folk and all,the idea of some particular group of people being chosen as favorites and loved by the deity might have triggered sound doses of jealousy and envy in those left behind, namely the gentiles. Jealousy is known to precipitate people towards hatred, prejudice and violence. if only we could get rid of all these old fashioned, perverse, stereotypical 'sacred' books we could all transcend the age old egotism so meticulously installed in us. The reason for modern antisemitism and all the other stupidities sits quietly somewhere on your book shelves.
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?israel / palestine is not a religious conflict. its a cultural conflict.(Original post by navarre)
Generally, it's the uneducated who tend to be anti-semites. And/or religious people.
Some Christians see Jews as Christ killers, some Muslims believe that Jews should be slain as per the Hadith, and some idiots believe that Jews run the world via a conspiracy- oh please- as if we'd be in such a massive economic/social mess if we had Jews running the world.
Then there's the Israel/Palestine issue, which, despite being very minor compared to other world events (see: Darfur, famine in North Korea, war in the Congo, slaughter in Syria) is blown way out of proportion because of the religious elements of the conflict. No one would care about Israel or Palestine if it wasn't about religion, specifically Jews vs Muslims. It would otherwise just be another tiny strip of land that in the usual historical fashion has been invaded by a different people to the previous occupants, which is by no means an anomaly in the grand scheme of things.
Also, interestingly, Jews tend to have a higher standard of living than others- envy is another factor, as it usually is for any silly hatred. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?I see it differently.(Original post by navarre)
Generally, it's the uneducated who tend to be anti-semites. And/or religious people.
Some Christians see Jews as Christ killers, some Muslims believe that Jews should be slain as per the Hadith, and some idiots believe that Jews run the world via a conspiracy- oh please- as if we'd be in such a massive economic/social mess if we had Jews running the world.
Then there's the Israel/Palestine issue, which, despite being very minor compared to other world events (see: Darfur, famine in North Korea, war in the Congo, slaughter in Syria) is blown way out of proportion because of the religious elements of the conflict. No one would care about Israel or Palestine if it wasn't about religion, specifically Jews vs Muslims.
Also, interestingly, Jews tend to have a higher standard of living than others- envy is another factor, as it usually is for any silly hatred.
Saddam Hussein, Bashar Hafez al-Assad...I wouldn't be so quick to label these guys as religious. They knew that and that's why they brought anti-Israel rhetoric to buy support.
Clearly it didn't work. One was beheaded, the other has sanctions in place... -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?Really?(Original post by Kalb)
israel / palestine is not a religious conflict. its a cultural conflict.
Look at it this way, if most of those Israelis were Muslims or the 300 million Arabs that surround Israel were Jews, I'd think there be little to no conflict. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?Oh of course. Because it has nothing to do with religion at all.(Original post by Kalb)
israel / palestine is not a religious conflict. its a cultural conflict.
The reason why (most) Protestants and Jews side with Israel and Muslims side with Palestine isn't to do with culture, for Islam and Protestantism encompass a very wide range of cultures, often contradictory. The reason why religious groups support a certain side is very much because of religion.
That's why we're always hearing about Israel/Palestine in the press. We're literally having it forced down our throats every day, despite how minor it is compared to countless more devastating events such as famines, wars and repression going on right now. The struggles in Darfur or North Korea are not religious, (indeed Darfur is truly cultural) and so no interest is shown.Last edited by navarre; 24-03-2012 at 00:33. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?BINGO!! nicely put harmony_01(Original post by harmony_01)
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Look at it this way, if most of those Israelis were Muslims or the 300 million Arabs that surround Israel were Jews, I'd think there be little to no conflict. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?look at it this way, a culture that has produced geniuses versus a culture that has produced absolutely nothing over the last 1400 years ( apart from a vest with a button which, when pressed, guarantees 72 dark eyed virgins.)(Original post by harmony_01)
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Look at it this way, if most of those Israelis were Muslims or the 300 million Arabs that surround Israel were Jews, I'd think there be little to no conflict. -
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Re: Where does modern day anti-semitism come from?Good thread... some interesting responses.
Inevitably religious differences (Christianity and Islam within the 'children of Abraham') and other stigmas are relevant.
As is an unfortunate conflation of the evils of zionism with Judaism - entirely ignoring the fact that to be a Jew is no necessary stand of support with the apartheid entity of Israel. Indeed some of the strongest and most successful critics of the Israel project are practicing religious Jews.
Edit - forgot jealousy. They are by and large successful, so haters pile up.Last edited by DJkG.1; 24-03-2012 at 00:36.
