[Moiraclaire]

(Original post by Industrious Orca)
Don't know where you heard this. UCL probably has one of the top economics departments in the UK, up there with LSE and Oxford (although probably a little below both) (and only better than Cambridge for postgraduate). For maths UCL is pretty average (relatively) considering it's ranked very highly for most courses. Maths at Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, Warwick, Bristol and Bath are definitely better courses than maths at UCL.

How good the department is has little relevance to whether the banks target each of these universities though. Maths at UCL will get you into banking with less extra effort than maths at Bath for example.

I couldn't be bothered to correct that post of mine. I meant maths IS Warwick's big thing, not UCL's

to your previous post. I just wanted to leave no stone unturned in my poll

KK

[tory88]

It depends on the subject and who is deciding which is more prestigious, but in general I would say it was between UCL and Warwick. Warwick is viewed as the better in asia, whilst UCL is viewed more favourably in America. In Europe UCL may have an edge in some countries whilst in others they will be seen as equal.

[Paul Allen]

choose either...youll be fine.

it always comes down to who really wants and if you want it, bristol, warwick or ucl can make it happen.

[member910132]

Imperial don't even do econ do they ??

[TomasK]

(Original post by Timba)
In the eyes of employers, the order is:

LSE
Oxbridge / Imperial
UCL / Warwick
Many crap unis
Bristol
Many really crap unis

Actually, when it comes to the number of people getting SW/SI offers LSE is not the 1st ranked uni.

[Paul Allen]

(Original post by Timba)
In the eyes of employers, the order is:

LSE
Oxbridge / Imperial
UCL / Warwick
Many crap unis
Bristol
Many really crap unis

they must be sporting stevie wonder vision.

[scherzi]

(Original post by Industrious Orca)
Don't know where you heard this. UCL probably has one of the top economics departments in the UK, up there with LSE and Oxford (although probably a little below both) (and only better than Cambridge for postgraduate). For maths UCL is pretty average (relatively) considering it's ranked very highly for most courses. Maths at Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, Warwick, Bristol and Bath are definitely better courses than maths at UCL.

How good the department is has little relevance to whether the banks target each of these universities though. Maths at UCL will get you into banking with less extra effort than maths at Bath for example.

In what ways is the maths course at UCL average? I'm trying to choose between Warwick and UCL for straight maths, and whilst I prefer UCL in almost every way the maths dept at Warwick is supposedly far superior... it's hard to see exactly what difference it would make for an undergrad studying maths though

[funkydee]

(Original post by TomasK)
Actually, when it comes to the number of people getting SW/SI offers LSE is not the 1st ranked uni.

I don't agree with his rank either would deffo put oxbridge first..
but looking at numbers alone isn't a good indication as LSE has quite a bit less undergrads than other unis?

[TomasK]

(Original post by funkydee)
I don't agree with his rank either would deffo put oxbridge first..
but looking at numbers alone isn't a good indication as LSE has quite a bit less undergrads than other unis?

True, although you must accept that LSE is a specialist university (no surpise it's smaller), so more likely than not a larger proportion of LSE undergrads (compared to Oxbridge) aim to land a job within IB, which actually is a massive perk of LSE if one is dead set on IB, expanding your network and all that.

[Industrious Orca]

(Original post by funkydee)
Where did you get these figures from?

Check the spring weeks 2011 thread, and if you scroll to the last 30 pages and check them then everyone who had spring weeks added up the universities present at those spring weeks and we added up the whole thing from about 10 different weeks at banks. So we got a list of universities and the number of students from those universities present at the spring week.

[Industrious Orca]

(Original post by scherzi)
In what ways is the maths course at UCL average? I'm trying to choose between Warwick and UCL for straight maths, and whilst I prefer UCL in almost every way the maths dept at Warwick is supposedly far superior... it's hard to see exactly what difference it would make for an undergrad studying maths though

I said relatively. If you look at most departments at UCL, they would place in the top few departments in the UK. With maths, UCL is definitely weaker than Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, Warwick, Bristol, Bath and arguably LSE too. Economics at UCL is arguably top 3 in the UK with LSE and Cambridge when it comes to research etc. In no way am i saying UCL maths is an average course in that it's the 50th best maths department in the country for example, but compared to the likes of the economics department, the maths department is pretty average.

If you want a career in IB or somewhere else outside of research then it won't make a difference which you choose.

If you want a career in research then it's best for you to make a thread outside of the IB&C forum because a lot of us only care about banking so know little about what an economics postgraduate application needs.

[scherzi]

(Original post by Industrious Orca)
I said relatively. If you look at most departments at UCL, they would place in the top few departments in the UK. With maths, UCL is definitely weaker than Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, Warwick, Bristol, Bath and arguably LSE too. Economics at UCL is arguably top 3 in the UK with LSE and Cambridge when it comes to research etc. In no way am i saying UCL maths is an average course in that it's the 50th best maths department in the country for example, but compared to the likes of the economics department, the maths department is pretty average.

If you want a career in IB or somewhere else outside of research then it won't make a difference which you choose.

If you want a career in research then it's best for you to make a thread outside of the IB&C forum because a lot of us only care about banking so know little about what an economics postgraduate application needs.

Alright, thanks

[Iron Lady]

They're all good universities.

Of course it helps to go to a respected institution, however employers care about the class of your degree as well. If you're enjoying the course and its content appeals to you, then this will have some bearing on how well you will do overall.

So visit the places, review the course information and check employability of all of them.

Honestly, it's not as though you're deciding between one of those universities and an ex-polytechnic.

[Moiraclaire]

(Original post by member910132)
Imperial don't even do econ do they ??

nope

(Original post by Iron Lady)
They're all good universities.

Of course it helps to go to a respected institution, however employers care about the class of your degree as well. If you're enjoying the course and its content appeals to you, then this will have some bearing on how well you will do overall.

So visit the places, review the course information and check employability of all of them.

Honestly, it's not as though you're deciding between one of those universities and an ex-polytechnic.

employment according to unistat.
Warwick 91% UCL 96%

Those look like old data, I thinks it's in the 80s for most of the best unis now ?

[lukas1051]

It really doesn't matter. It's not like you're comparing Oxford and London Met, these are three good, respected universities of similar calibre. No employer is going to not interview you because you went to Warwick instead of UCL. It's about what you do with your degree, it's about the connections you make, it's about experience. The majority of TSR users seem to have this impression that employers have this ranked list of universities on the wall, and you can only get a job by going to _____ University (funnily enough those users are usually A-level students, not people who have actually graduated and started looking for employment).

Go wherever you will feel happiest, not the place that has a minutely better 'reputation' because it won't make the slightest bit of difference. What will make the difference is how you perform at university, and that will probably be a factor of your happiness.

[Moiraclaire]

(Original post by lukas1051)
It really doesn't matter. It's not like you're comparing Oxford and London Met, these are three good, respected universities of similar calibre. No employer is going to not interview you because you went to Warwick instead of UCL. It's about what you do with your degree, it's about the connections you make, it's about experience. The majority of TSR users seem to have this impression that employers have this ranked list of universities on the wall, and you can only get a job by going to _____ University (funnily enough those users are usually A-level students, not people who have actually graduated and started looking for employment).

Go wherever you will feel happiest, not the place that has a minutely better 'reputation' because it won't make the slightest bit of difference. What will make the difference is how you perform at university, and that will probably be a factor of your happiness.

awww ! I'd be happiest wherever my effort was going to count the most :L But UCL is my favourite and I think I'm going to go for them
and insure Bristol.

[fail@maths]

(Original post by Moiraclaire)
No, I applied to Cambridge and was rejected after interview.

My interview was shocking. My TSA score was below average. My UMS in my ASs were also no where near good enough.

Being a woman this is bad news. You girls need to go to Oxbridge to stand a chance in the City...

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Moiraclaire]

(Original post by fail@maths)
Being a woman this is bad news. You girls need to go to Oxbridge to stand a chance in the City...

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Thanks...

[Mirey]

I definately didn't just vote Bristol because I go there

I think ultimately this ranking doesn't matter. At our employer fairs there are all the top banks, law firms and consultancy firms, and I'm sure the same is true UCL and Warwick (Though I cba to look)

It really doesn't matter where you go/went. If you have a 2.1 and get an interview, the only thing that matters is how well you can answer their questions.

They're not gonna be thinking "Dave was great, but he only went to Bristol! However Frank was a complete tool but goes to Cambridge, lets take him!"

[member910132]

(Original post by Mirey)
I definately didn't just vote Bristol because I go there

I think ultimately this ranking doesn't matter. At our employer fairs there are all the top banks, law firms and consultancy firms, and I'm sure the same is true UCL and Warwick (Though I cba to look)

It really doesn't matter where you go/went. If you have a 2.1 and get an interview, the only thing that matters is how well you can answer their questions.

They're not gonna be thinking "Dave was great, but he only went to Bristol! However Frank was a complete tool but goes to Cambridge, lets take him!"

But wouldn't Warwick and UCL have a higher quantity and quality of employers on in their fair then Bristol ?
Also, not sure about this but would UCL's career department be stronger and more supporting simply because they are in London and might have stronger networks ?