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Reply 280
Original post by tehFrance
And you think that Labour could do better? don't make me laugh, you deluded lefties will spend, spend, spend and bring ruin to this country as you did during the later years of Blair and entire of Brown's term.

It is not my motion and I have zero opinion on it, I also abstained during the vote.


We can do a better job than you can... And also isn't it clear? To make money you have to spend money. "Deluded"? U mad bro? Just because we care about the wellbeing of our people, it doesn't make us "deluded"... If anything, you're "deluded" for your very rightist views.

Original post by Morgsie
Good question, the definitions have changed. It was originally to remove Al Queda then the RL Labour Government changed it.


The real life labour government only prolonged our stay there, which is one of the reasons why I don't support them in real life. This deadline idea just won't work; it'll be postponed, and then postponed, and then postponed.
Original post by Maddog Jones


The Liberal Democrats - Don't fall for it again.

Vote Labour.




There's a difference between the real lib Dems and the TSR Lib Dems. Don't use real life stuff about a TSR election. It's just silly.
Original post by mevidek
We can do a better job than you can... And also isn't it clear? To make money you have to spend money. "Deluded"? U mad bro? Just because we care about the wellbeing of our people, it doesn't make us "deluded"... If anything, you're "deluded" for your very rightist views.

Ah yes the old "You need to spend money to make money" line... while true, Labour spend frivolously on things that do not need nearly as much money as you lot seem to want to spend on them.
Original post by mevidek
The real life labour government only prolonged our stay there, which is one of the reasons why I don't support them in real life. This deadline idea just won't work; it'll be postponed, and then postponed, and then postponed.


That's not to say we support immediate withdrawal, I want to clarify. It merely means that we should stay until Afghan troops are fully trained, and that's not something we can put a specific deadline on. It would be misleading and inaccurate to do so.
Reply 284
Original post by TopHat
Why should they vote Socialist when the Socialists were the only truly inactive party?


Because I am old and biased and once the Socialists were great :p:
Reply 285
Original post by tehFrance
Ah yes the old "You need to spend money to make money" line... while true, Labour spend frivolously on things that do not need nearly as much money as you lot seem to want to spend on them.


Whatever - if you're just going to make cuts that affect the poor hardest, you're not a good or a fair leader.
Original post by ukebert
Because I am old and biased and once the Socialists were great :p:


Once.
Reply 287
Original post by TopHat
Once.


Once :frown: but I thought that I would do my bit, as it were.
Reply 288
Somebody negged me for telling people to vote socialist? Really? ****ing hell.
Original post by mevidek
Whatever - if you're just going to make cuts that affect the poor hardest, you're not a good or a fair leader.

Who says anything about cutting to hurt the poor? the working poor overall benefit. Those that choose not to work, deserve to be hit hard, maybe it will make them see sense so they work.
Reply 290
Original post by tehFrance
Who says anything about cutting to hurt the poor? the working poor overall benefit. Those that choose not to work, deserve to be hit hard, maybe it will make them see sense so they work.


You seem to forget that many people can't find work. My father, for example, used to be a civil servant, but was made redundant and now can't find work, and has a reduced pension. Let's not bring RL into this any more, but these are the kinds of stories many people have to tell; life under the tory party has, and always will be ****.
Original post by mevidek
My father, for example, used to be a civil servant...

...In the over-bloated public sector that needed cutting down. Is it my fault he cannot find a job? no. Is it the tories fault he cannot find a job? no. Do those in the private sector complain about how much they get pension wise compared to current and former government workers? no.

No doubt if Labour got back into power, they'd re-bloat the public sector to win the vote of the stupid unions, who's leaders are better off than the workers, how is that fair? it isn't down the unions!

Life under the the right wing both here and France has done wonders for my family.
Reply 292
Original post by tehFrance
...In the over-bloated public sector that needed cutting down. Is it my fault he cannot find a job? no. Is it the tories fault he cannot find a job? no. Do those in the private sector complain about how much they get pension wise compared to current and former government workers? no.

No doubt if Labour got back into power, they'd re-bloat the public sector to win the vote of the stupid unions, who's leaders are better off than the workers, how is that fair? it isn't down the unions!

Life under the the right wing both here and France has done wonders for my family.


What sort of background are you from?

The Right wing only suits certain types of people. Most people lose under the rule of the tories. I'm going to bed now. I'll reply tomorrow.
Reply 293
The Tories are the party of aspiration, they create the economic conditions which allow business to thrive.
Reply 294
The Liberal Democrats are the Party of Fairness

VOTE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS IN THE MARCH GENERAL ELECTION,THE ONLY PARTY THAT CARES FOR THOSE UNDERREPRESENTED IN THIS COUNTRY,WE BELIEVE IN THE NHS,A FAIR WELFARE AND BENEFITS SYSTEM,THESE AMONGST OTHERS WE WANT TO CHANGE,IF YOU VOTE FOR US WE PROMISE THAT THINGS WILL CHANGE,UNLIKE OTHER PARTIES WE KEEP OUR PROMISES
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Here are my political compass results. It's changed a bit since a few months ago, so it's certainly not static.

http://www.politicaltest.net/test/graphic6/96326_eng.jpg

http://www.politicaltest.net/test/graphic2/96326_eng.jpg

Any opinions on what party I should support from this appreciated, though I don't take the political compass too seriously.

Oh, and I'm a cosmopolitan social democrat. Looking back at the old political compass thread, one Labour, Lib Dem, Centre and Socialist (?) held the same position as me, so a bit of a bunch. Used to be a social democrat, though.
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Original post by TopHat
Why should they vote Socialist when the Socialists were the only truly inactive party?
I think that's a bit unfair. We've been active in our-subforum despite not submitting anything this term.University commitments, rather than incompetence is a key reason for inactivity, which has been an HoC-wide problem.
But other than that, I feel our party is the only proper representative of the left, as Labour have no issues having social democrats, centrists and Blairites in their party.

mevidek
Libertarians =/= freedom
Explain? :lolwut:

Original post by ukebert
Because I am old and biased and once the Socialists were great :p:
Great until it all activity collapsed at once. :emo:
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Reply 297
Original post by DebatingGreg
OK, thanks :smile:

More generally for a newbie like me, where do the TSR Liberal Democrats stand in relation to the real Lib Dems are concerned? More economically left or right, more socially liberal or conservative etc.? :smile:


Vote UKIP. We're the only party to have made a commitment to a date by which we will have all our troops out of Afghanistan. We're also the only party to have promised not to waste any more money on European bailouts.
Reply 298
Original post by mevidek
life under the tory party has, and always will be ****.


Whilst I'm a UKIP member, I have to attack that ludicrous statement. Life under Labour might be more 'fun', but it's simply not sustainable. Labour are like the parent, who, in the wake of a divorce, tries to turn the kids against the parent they chose to stay with by letting them eat sweets constantly, stay up late all the time and watch films that are far too old for them. The kids might find it fun in the short term, but ultimately, their teeth will rot, their performance at school will deteriorate, and they'll be mentally scarred from watching Hostel 3.

Life isn't '****' under the Tories: it's realistic.
Original post by mevidek
What sort of background are you from?

The Right wing only suits certain types of people. Most people lose under the rule of the tories. I'm going to bed now. I'll reply tomorrow.

The kind of background where I light my cigars with 200€ bills, mingle with the elite and can buy whatever I like without worrying about cost... while that is an exaggeration (well one of it), I do come from an extremely well off background.

No, only those that choose not to work lose under the Tories.
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