Is France the Most Racist Country in Europe?

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  1. Nick100's Avatar
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    Re: Is France the Most Racist Country in Europe?
    (Original post by Raducan)
    This.

    It was only last year that they elected their first black politician ever.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Gregoire_Sagbo

    As a comparison, France managed to reach this milestone almost a century ago in 1914...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Diagne
    That's not remarkable when you consider that Russia has been under the control of a dictatorship for most of the last century and is mostly white.
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    Re: Is France the Most Racist Country in Europe?
    (Original post by navarre)
    France generally sucks. It's one of the worst countries in Europe. A pathetic, wussy history, a dying language, independence movements in Corsica, Brittany and Alsace-Lorraine, an economy in the dumps and severe social margins between minority groups such as blacks and Muslims when compared to the rest of the population.
    This is massively misjudged. First of all, France has an incredibly interesting and vibrant history; think French revolution, Napoleon, two world wars etc in the past 225 years alone. Secondly, far from being a dying language, French may well become more and more useful as the global economy shifts its focus to Africa. Finally, many countries (including most western ones) have separatist movements, France is no different to us in that respect.

    In answer to the original question: France is not necessarily more racist, it just has a broader political spectrum than many. Both nationalists and socialists have a much stronger showing than in places like the UK.

    Oh, and just as a general point, being opposed to high immigration does not equal being a racist. Many Le Pen voters are racists, but you'll find that most are just normal French people who are annoyed and looking for somebody to blame, much like people over here who vote BNP.
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    Re: Is France the Most Racist Country in Europe?
    (Original post by FrogInABog)
    This is massively misjudged. First of all, France has an incredibly interesting and vibrant history; think French revolution, Napoleon, two world wars etc in the past 225 years alone. Secondly, far from being a dying language, French may well become more and more useful as the global economy shifts its focus to Africa. Finally, many countries (including most western ones) have separatist movements, France is no different to us in that respect.
    French history is hardly interesting, unless you consider learning the French consistently having their arses handed to them interesting. The only even of interest is the French Revolution, and even that pales in terms of interest when compared to the American Revolution.

    French is a language in decline, and all but useless to native speakers of English. Despite being spoken by a minority in a few African countries wrecked with internal problems, it is fairly unknown outside of Europe (indeed, even outside of France. Far more Europeans speak English and German than French). When you consider that students in Vietnam have protested at having to learn the useless language of French as opposed to English, you begin to get a feel of how redundant it is these days.
    There was a time,100 years ago, when knowing French would have opened all sorts of career pathways in diplomacy, science and education; nowadays knowing French is unlikely to get you much further than ordering lunch at a service station on a French motorway.

    France has denied its regions with seperatist movements any autonomy. Whereas Scotland and Wales have their own regional assemblies and Welsh is a language in revival, Corsica and Brittany have no such representation and both have had their language suppressed.
    Last edited by navarre; 02-04-2012 at 00:56.
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    Re: Is France the Most Racist Country in Europe?
    (Original post by ajtiesto)
    France and the UK are deffo up there. Both racist countries and no rights for ethnic minorities.
    pipe down wee lad! most people are friendly and minorities have lots of rights in Britain.
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