Tulisa sex tape "scandal" - why is sex seen as immoral?

Quite. I was wondering earlier today what if a tape of a male pop star giving head to a woman had leaked.

Actually I explained myself quite clearly if you read again. Couple do it for the memoirs, not for the porn video like quality of it, so no need to be a porn master. The enjoy the psychological thrill of being filmed, not for the camera work they put into it. All you have to do it hold the camera with one hand or stick it on a tripod and press record.

And like I quite clearly have mentioned over and over again, sex outside of porn is DIFFERENT. Therefore obviously, the camera work is quite different. Half of the stuff that is done in porn is for people to masturbate to, not for them to recall memories.

I explained myself quite clearly over and over and again.

Actually no. If I recall correctly, it seems sometimes you tend to make claims and then simply tell people to "look at the facts".

Protip: Don't debate about topics which you really seem to have no experience or knowledge about

What if she asked you to do it? And she was a virgin before you, no sexual partners at all... then still a slag?

Not really, like I said, the psychological impact of being filmed is a turn on for normal people. If only you knew some fantasies of certain very normal women...

Fame doesn't really matter. Would it just be Tulisa who has made a sex tape? Are there no other celebrities doing it?

No, but its the same point. sex in porn and real sex between two partners has a massive massive difference. I highly doubt a pornstar has sex in the same manner in his private life than on-screen

I explained myself clearly in my first post.
Why is your post right and mine wrong? Are you claiming to be omniscient?

I don't know who she is and I don't care. What I care is that most of the celebrities are the role models for children and I wouldn't expect you to be happy seeing 10 year olds do what she is doing in the tape. If this isn't a valid reason for you then I don't know what kind of morals values you have got.

link me to it, please

Well I would simply say no.
If she asked if she could do you with a strap-on would you say yes simply because she is your gf? Of course not. And what is worse are the implications of filming something if when it gets leaked.
She may not have slept with many people, but asking to do such a thing is slaggy.

Sorry, but that is utter crap. Many people do not get a thrill from doing something abnormal and many people have the common sense to be more worried with doing such a thing then to be turned on by it. You are implying that every couple on the planet will at some point shag in public and join the mile high club as everyone is kinky and desperately seeking some sexual relief. Being filmed is a specific fetish that only a few people enjoy.

Oh but fame does matter. If some nobody had their film leaked, no one would care. If a celeb film is leaked, it goes viral within minutes and the person can easily lose their career over it. I am amazed I have had to spell that bit out for you.

Seeing how some partners treat each other, I would beg to differ. Many couples are together simply for easy sex and so they have someone to be around. They may not like, nor respect each other, and I think that is that case with Tulisa seeing that the ex leaked this video.

If a 10 year old can find and watch the video, they can look at much worse. If that's the attitude you take, then surely you must be against movies rated over PG too? Can't have children watching someone fire a gun, next thing they'd all be doing it!

"Couple do it for the memoirs, not for the porn video like quality of it"

You know this how? Or just a claim with no backing?

"The enjoy the psychological thrill of being filmed"

You just said it was for the memoirs...Which is it, for memoirs (and why does memory not suffice?) or for the thrill?


Lemmie guess, polytech, BA? Right?

You are just going on ad hominems here

It's easy. You are trying to clutch at straws by assuming you can't have both. Filming it in the moment, and preserving the tape for the memory to recall the moment.

consider the following quote: "Hey honey, lets film each other having sex, makes me feel naughty and it will make for a good fun when we watch it in a year or two"


can the two not coincide?

You are contradicting yourself here. Consider a woman who was a virgin until marriage, wanting to find the perfect man to love and lose it to etc. Still a slag if she wants to you to record?

Actually no, you are mixing two different things. Being penetrated and filming sex are different. One gives a thrill for one party, the other brings a thrill for both. However, oddly mostly some men are into it (can't provide a link for this).

There is always the chance of getting it leaked but its part of the appeal I would say.

Abnormal? Not quite, it is very very common. Are these fantasies of women also abnormal?

And sex for women is very very psychological. Why is there no Viagra for women for a quick fix?

No wonder women are so suppressed sexually

Not really, if it does then it is only on a gradient. The only difference betwenn Tulisa and someone else is that only the neighbourhood knows them, the whole town them etc and most know Tulisa.

And really? lose their career over it, hardly if you look at it. Seems to make them even more popular, do I really have to spell that out for you?

I don't how this responds to what I said. I'm saying sex in porn and sex outside of porn is different. "Outside" meaning outside of porn. Love and respect doesn't have to be there for the sex to be different. you wouldn't really want to stick a finger into her anus, and then to her vagina if you had any common sense. However this is done in porn almost everytime.

Haven't watched the sex tape or seen anything more about it than what is on the news stand when I pick up milk from Spar.

As long as it was within the law and safe, whats the big deal?
Its not like she was touting she was a virgin before hand? Its not like Tulisa is going to increase the high teen pregnancy rate we already have in this country. If anything she is probably a role model against teen pregnancy, with the glam lifestyle she has.

Its all this slut shaming, apparently women shouldn't have any lustful feelings until marriage and then it should be reluctant and to serve our husbands. If I were her i would bring out a line with durex called 'the female boss'.

You wouldn't really want to stick a finger into her anus, and then to her vagina if you had any common sense. However this is done in porn almost everytime.

So a BA and a polytech yah? Because your understanding of the scientific method rivals that of a dog's steaming pile of ****.

There were no ad hominems. Your argument is nothing but the presumption that your view is the universally held one. Do you have ANY evidence to show that your opinion isn't anything but just your view?

Consider this quote:
""Hey honey, lets have sex & not film each other because we don't want a camera getting in the way and why record sex when we can just **** when we want to?"