[Cherry Gwyn]

(Original post by xoxAngel_Kxox)
You must live a seriously sedentary lifestyle for this to be the case. Most women could eat at least 1,800 with a moderately active life (ie walking to and from school/college, plus things like housework and daily activities) and maintain the weight. I know some girls who eat 2,500 cals per day and exercise a lot so they still lose the weight.

That's what I don't get - I walk everywhere!! I walk to and back from uni (1hr30 mins ish in total) and am active in uni, walking around, and my course requires a lot of standing up. I also walk my dog when i'm not at uni!

[Cherry Gwyn]

(Original post by teddyplanet)
Have you tried eating 1500 calories or more for an extended period of time? A couple of weeks or so?

Hmm, actually no. I tend to panic after a week when i've noticeably put on weight and diet again.

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I have taken on board all of the responses and will try and trim up my diet with fewer carbs and more protein and good fats in replacement.

[yothi5]

(Original post by xoxAngel_Kxox)
Do you not realise how dangerous posting utter crap like that could be to someone who clearly has body/diet issues already?

You're suggesting she eats just TWO APPLES per day? I assume (and hope) you're joking, but there's nothing in your post to indicate this, and if she takes you seriously she could damage her health.

I'm just trying to help her lose weight. That's what she wants. And also, dieting is dangerous in the first place anyway.

[Cherry Gwyn]

(Original post by yothi5)
I'm just trying to help her lose weight. That's what she wants. And also, dieting is dangerous in the first place anyway.

I'm not looking to go on a diet to loose loads of weight... I looking to improve my diet as a lifestyle change.

[Emanon]

Why do you want to lose weight?

Your BMI suggests that you are already at the lower end of the healthy weight range. Have you considered that your inability to lose more weight might be a sign that your body is doing as much as it can to hold on to the weight you have by slowing your metabolism? This could be why you start to put on weight as soon as you eat a normal diet. You do not need to lose weight and your body knows that.

You mentioned wanting to get rid of a flabby stomach. This will not happen by starving yourself. People can get very thin and still look flabby because there is nothing else on their bones to give their body any definition. What you need to do is GAIN weight, or rather muscle weight. You mentioned a lot of walking, this is good exercise for your cardio system but it won't help you with much else.

You need to start to eat properly and exercise properly. This is where I hope someone else can come in who knows more about exercise routines than I do. Personally I did it by taking up martial arts. I haven't lost any weight because what I've lost in fat I've gained in muscle, but my body has changed completely and I feel so much better for it. Muscle mass also has the advantage of raising your metabolism so you will be able to eat more and not put on fat.

[xoxAngel_Kxox]

(Original post by yothi5)
I'm just trying to help her lose weight. That's what she wants. And also, dieting is dangerous in the first place anyway.

No. Diets can be perfectly healthy. What you're suggesting would probably lead to hospitalisation.

[yothi5]

(Original post by xoxAngel_Kxox)
No. Diets can be perfectly healthy. What you're suggesting would probably lead to hospitalisation.

How can a diet below 2000 calories be healthy.

Anyway, if people watched what they ate in the first place, they wouldn't need to diet.

[PinkMobilePhone]

(Original post by xoxAngel_Kxox)
There is absolutely no way you need to, or should be trying to, lose weight. If you think you have fat then you should be trying to build muscle to become more lean and actually GAIN weight. I'm pretty much the same height as you and would never go under 10 and a half stone.. I very much doubt you need to be that weight.

agreed. I'm only 5'4" and I'm aiming for around 9 and a half stone thereabouts. The OP doesn't need to lose weight.

[mikestraws]

Please guys, stop.

Cherry Gwyn has an eating disorder. If you read her posts and properly think about them, it's pretty obvious. When she tried to do the transformation contest this became extremely apparent to me and anyone who read them. Her before pictures and stats showed she was (probably still is) below a healthy weight, and yet she was obssessed with losing it. She sees herself as fat, is a compulsive exerciser and eats nothing, eats very samey foods most meals most days.

This girl listed a day of eating too much food as this:
"Breakfast: 30g mini shredded wheat, 125ml skimmed milk.
Lunch: 30g mini shredded wheat, 125ml skimmed milk
Dinner: Mini magnum, Mince Pie
Snacks: Apple"

And a day on her diet as this:
"Today:
Oaty bakes (100kcal)
Apple (70kcal)
60 minutes walking and 20 sprints "

These are all traits of anorexia, she even ended up in hospital due to severely low blood pressure.

(Original post by Cherry Gwyn)
Hmm, actually no. I tend to panic after a week when i've noticeably put on weight and diet again.

(Original post by Cherry Gwyn)
If I eat anything over 1500 calories I put on weight.

This sums it up. There is no way she is noticeably gaining weight in a week, this is her mind hating what it sees no matter what it sees which is pretty much the root of anoerexia.

She is here again, asking for nutritional advice to lose weight, by giving her it, we are probably adding to the problem. Yeah she has acknowledged that she needs to eat more, but she still see's food as the enemy, she is still basing her diet on weight loss, not nutrition.

I previously contacted the mods about it, asked them to message her some details of support groups or something and they laughed in my e-face.

Cherry I am now talking directly to you. You have an eating disorder, but you are young and have every possibility to beat it. This can control your life, and ruin your life but you don't need to let it. Now I can't give you advice on how to fix this, but I suggest you start with things like:

Go to the person you are closest to; family, friend, best friend, partner or whoever, and tell them. Tell them everything, chances are they have noticed already.
Go to your GP, this is the next step. Come straight out and say you have a problem - admittance is key, you have nothing to be ashamed of.
Ask your gp for support groups, this isn't something you should tackle alone but it's also something your friends and family might not understand because they are not going through it. Your GP should also put you in touch with someone to help you with this.

That's all i've got. This is not sarcasm or trolling, this is genuine advice and concern, I don't think you need to be here on this forum, you need to get help before ths gets out of hand. Good luck.

[mikestraws]

(Original post by xoxAngel_Kxox)
No. Diets can be perfectly healthy. What you're suggesting would probably lead to hospitalisation.

This is wrong. The act of "going on a diet" is an unhealthy thing. The act of "Changing your diet" is completely different, healthy and what the majority of the united kingdom needs to do.

[forsaken_earth]

Mate, stop reading most of the crap people are posting here and be honest with yourself. You're eating too little, focusing too much on food and weight, and are getting paranoid and i'm gonna guess at times obsessive.

Don't let this mean more to you than it should.
Stop counting, throw away your scales and try to learn to eat instinctively. Your weight will stabilise and putting xyz in your mouth shouldn't create feelings of anxiety or guilt.

Don't listen to idiots, and take good care of yourself.

[ilovelabradors]

(Original post by mikestraws)
Please guys, stop.

I previously contacted the mods about it, asked them to message her some details of support groups or something and they laughed in my e-face.

.

What?

[rosee92]

(Original post by Cherry Gwyn)
Thanks for the replies everyone. I am 5ft8 and weigh 8st 11. I don't want to loose a huge amount, but about 1 pound a week until I loose my stomach flab is what i'm aiming for. Edit: To be honest, I wouldn't mind staying at this weight at all - i'm just a bit miffed that if I increase my food to a normal maintainable calorie count I will definitely put on weight.

Is my metabolism just rubbish then? I have less than 1200 a day with added exercise and haven't lost much at all in a month!

To lose your 'stomach flab' try excercise involving weights, rather than cardio to help you tone.

[PinkMobilePhone]

(Original post by mikestraws)
Please guys, stop.

Cherry Gwyn has an eating disorder. If you read her posts and properly think about them, it's pretty obvious. When she tried to do the transformation contest this became extremely apparent to me and anyone who read them. Her before pictures and stats showed she was (probably still is) below a healthy weight, and yet she was obssessed with losing it. She sees herself as fat, is a compulsive exerciser and eats nothing, eats very samey foods most meals most days.

This girl listed a day of eating too much food as this:
"Breakfast: 30g mini shredded wheat, 125ml skimmed milk.
Lunch: 30g mini shredded wheat, 125ml skimmed milk
Dinner: Mini magnum, Mince Pie
Snacks: Apple"

And a day on her diet as this:
"Today:
Oaty bakes (100kcal)
Apple (70kcal)
60 minutes walking and 20 sprints "

These are all traits of anorexia, she even ended up in hospital due to severely low blood pressure.






This sums it up. There is no way she is noticeably gaining weight in a week, this is her mind hating what it sees no matter what it sees which is pretty much the root of anoerexia.

She is here again, asking for nutritional advice to lose weight, by giving her it, we are probably adding to the problem. Yeah she has acknowledged that she needs to eat more, but she still see's food as the enemy, she is still basing her diet on weight loss, not nutrition.

I previously contacted the mods about it, asked them to message her some details of support groups or something and they laughed in my e-face.

Cherry I am now talking directly to you. You have an eating disorder, but you are young and have every possibility to beat it. This can control your life, and ruin your life but you don't need to let it. Now I can't give you advice on how to fix this, but I suggest you start with things like:

Go to the person you are closest to; family, friend, best friend, partner or whoever, and tell them. Tell them everything, chances are they have noticed already.
Go to your GP, this is the next step. Come straight out and say you have a problem - admittance is key, you have nothing to be ashamed of.
Ask your gp for support groups, this isn't something you should tackle alone but it's also something your friends and family might not understand because they are not going through it. Your GP should also put you in touch with someone to help you with this.

That's all i've got. This is not sarcasm or trolling, this is genuine advice and concern, I don't think you need to be here on this forum, you need to get help before ths gets out of hand. Good luck.

I hadn't realised that was the same lass from the transformation contest actually, I do remember reading her thread a little until she left the contest.

[Cherry Gwyn]

-sigh- thanks for your concerns but as i've stated i'm doing all I can do eat healthily and want good nutrition as well as not gaining weight - all this I stated in my OP.

I can 100% guarantee that I do gain weight if I eat over 1500 calories even with no junk. And not just water weight on the scales but visible weight.

I've taken the carbs opinions on board and wanted to know if this was an improvement?

Yesterday:
Breakfast: Porridge
Lunch: 2 apples, some fresh blueberries and 2 squares of dark chocolate
Dinner: 3 eggs, tomatoes, spinach and mackerel.

[kka25]

(Original post by Old School)
A few things are wrong with this diet:

1) Drop the cereal. That stuff is crap. You may as well eat the box. Eat eggs or porridge instead (preferably eggs)

2) Drop the toast. Replace with more salad/veggies

3) Drop the skimmed milk. The stff is basically sugar water. Drink/use full fat milk if you have it at all, at least then you're getting some form of nutrition from it.

4) Eating fat doesn't make you fat. Eating too much makes you fat. Get some nuts into your diet along with unprocessed dairy sources and oily fish (think salmon). Diets rich in natural fats are awesome for your health.

5) You eat way too much in the way of processed food (see the point about cereal above). That stuff is never good. If it comes in a box or vaccuum pack, don't eat it.

Wow if this is true, then this is very useful!

Why drop the toast? I usually warm my bread on the pan until it's brown after making my scramble eggs. Yum.

Mind if I ask what's wrong with vaccuum pack? Complete n00b alert

[sil3nt_cha0s]

(Original post by Cherry Gwyn)
Hello! After loosing some weight over the past 9 months I have noticed some side effects from a low calorie diet (was around 500 a day some days). Therefore i'm really looking to change it in order to be more healthy, but still loose a little bit of weight, slow and steadily.
Over the past month or so i've been trying really hard to have a healthy diet of around 1000-1300 (not amazing I know but keep reading) calories per day, along with some fast walking (1 hour 30 minutes 6 times a week).

The thing is, following this plan I have lost no weight whatsoever. People have told me that 1000-1300 is not enough for maintaining weight (i'm female btw)... but I have been! And they are what I believe mostly healthy calories, calories my body can use.
This is an example of the last few days diet:

Thursday:
Breakfast: Large bowl of cereal - 20g cheerios and 30g plain corn flakes (always use skimmed milk)
Lunch: Fresh chicken and lettuce in a large whole-wheat bap
snack: An apple and a small bowl of corn flakes
Dinner: 2 low kcal slices of brown bread with hummus spread

Friday:
Breakfast: Porridge
Lunch: Corn flakes, an apple, some skips
Dinner: Lentil and cabbage soup
Afters: Small chocolate bar (100kcal) and some dry cheerios

Yesterday:
Breakfast: Cheerios and an apple
Lunch: Mixed bean spicy Dahl on toast (approx 250 kcal), small chocolate (100)
skips crips.
Dinner: The rest of the dahl with fresh salad, and an apple after.

Weren't you the person who ate like an anorexic and was forced to withdraw from the TSR transformation contest? You haven't changed, have you? You're not eating enough what you're eating is rubbish, just like before. Apart from the chicken, there's next to no protein there. Eat some eggs, more milk, cheese, fish and/or meat each day.

[Cherry Gwyn]

(Original post by sil3nt_cha0s)
Weren't you the person who ate like an anorexic and was forced to withdraw from the TSR transformation contest? You haven't changed, have you? You're not eating enough what you're eating is rubbish, just like before. Apart from the chicken, there's next to no protein there. Eat some eggs, more milk, cheese, fish and/or meat each day.

I've taken the carbs opinions on board and wanted to know if this was an improvement?

Yesterday:
Breakfast: Porridge
Lunch: 2 apples, some fresh blueberries and 2 squares of dark chocolate
Dinner: 3 eggs, tomatoes, spinach and mackerel.

[chronic_fatigue]

(Original post by Cherry Gwyn)
-sigh- thanks for your concerns but as i've stated i'm doing all I can do eat healthily and want good nutrition as well as not gaining weight - all this I stated in my OP.

I can 100% guarantee that I do gain weight if I eat over 1500 calories even with no junk. And not just water weight on the scales but visible weight.

I've taken the carbs opinions on board and wanted to know if this was an improvement?

Yesterday:
Breakfast: Porridge
Lunch: 2 apples, some fresh blueberries and 2 squares of dark chocolate
Dinner: 3 eggs, tomatoes, spinach and mackerel.

Still sounds like you eat very little. How big are your portions? Do you only eat fish?

[Cherry Gwyn]

(Original post by chronic_fatigue)
Still sounds like you eat very little. How big are your portions? Do you only eat fish?

well 3 eggs is pretty self explanatory, in terms of the fish, I had 1/2 a can of mackerel. I don't have much money so buying things full of protein is a bit of a struggle.