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Is British Drinking culture genetic?

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    (Original post by someguy113)
    Not suggesting culture is down primarily to genetics, but it's obvious a drinking culture like Britain's could never develop in somewhere like China for example, so therefore it definitely has an influence.
    People have been heavily drinking in Britain since at least the 1500s. Genetics has very little to do with this. Peer pressure and wanting to fit in are more important reasons as to why our drinking culture is becoming more apparent in recent times.
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    No. What a great excuse for the scum who live to drink.
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    It's not genetic at all.
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    (Original post by Tahooper)
    Genetics has very little to do with this.
    (Original post by DeadGirlsDance)
    It's not genetic at all.
    Perhaps it's over my head and I couldn't understand if I tried, but how exactly do you know this?
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    (Original post by NB_ide)
    Perhaps it's over my head and I couldn't understand if I tried, but how exactly do you know this?
    It's just my opinion and personal experience. I did not claim to know the true answer of whether or not it is genetic.
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    (Original post by DeadGirlsDance)
    It's not genetic at all.
    (Original post by DeadGirlsDance)
    It's just my opinion and personal experience. I did not claim to know the true answer of whether or not it is genetic.
    How can you have "personal experience" of the genetic influence on this behaviour? Presumably you've studied it somehow?? Lay people having an "opinion" on complex scientific matters is such a strange concept.
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    (Original post by NB_ide)
    How can you have "personal experience" of the genetic influence on this behaviour? Presumably you've studied it somehow?? Lay people having an "opinion" on complex scientific matters is such a strange concept.
    Personal experience of people who are related to me who drink a lot, and others on the same side of the family who don't. As a result, my opinion is that it's not genetic. I'm 17, of course i haven't studied it, idiot. I just gave my opinion, as did everyone else. As you're not the OP it is none of your business.
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    (Original post by DeadGirlsDance)
    Personal experience of people who are related to me who drink a lot, and others on the same side of the family who don't. As a result, my opinion is that it's not genetic.
    Remarkable. I thought basic science lessons were compulsory up to GCSE?

    As you're not the OP it is none of your business.
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    (Original post by NB_ide)
    Remarkable. I thought basic science lessons were compulsory up to GCSE?
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    Did you not realise how bad GCSE's are, and they're so rubbish and basic that they don't go into depth about specific genetics. They generally don't go into much detail about which ones are more dominant and the patterns of inheritance from parents.
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    (Original post by DeadGirlsDance)
    Did you not realise how bad GCSE's are, and they're so rubbish and basic that they don't go into depth about specific genetics. They generally don't go into much detail about which ones are more dominant and the patterns of inheritance from parents.
    I thought they'd at least teach basic ideas about how legitimate scientific observations are made and what is and is not sufficient or relevant evidence.
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    It's just culture. People are allowed to go and get drunk because they have been kept from it all their life. If we had the same drinking laws as Germany and France it will change, but not instantly because we're too used to the lax drinking prices and the strict drinking age.

    If we do exactly what the Germans do then it will change.
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    You know what, it may be. Take this, honest account from me ie my family tree:

    My dad when young loved to go out partying hard and likes nice things and is proud of his appearance. Like I did, and still do from time to time, and am. His dad (a half irish bloke) also loves a good drink. Hes 70 odd, and still drinks a lot now.

    My mum has never liked drinking or partying and is a farm girl who loves wellies, comfy clothes and animals. I love animals to death and being comfy but thats where it ends.

    I have similarities in both of them, I like partying like my dad did and like his dad still does. So maybe it is genetic, lol?
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    I hardly think.its genetic, the masses have always wanted escap, now such vile culture is glorified every which way so people assume its alright.

    My father was an alcoholic and my moter had other vices but i am.straight edge and recoil at the binge culture of the current young generation. People need to learn a respect for themselves and alcohol. it purely nurture, nature is just an excuse.
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    (Original post by NB_ide)
    Perhaps it's over my head and I couldn't understand if I tried, but how exactly do you know this?
    If genetics played a big part in our drinking culture everybody would do it not just cocky 18-29 year olds.
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    (Original post by Tahooper)
    If genetics played a big part in our drinking culture everybody would do it not just cocky 18-29 year olds.
    How does that work?
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    Why do people love to make out that it's only the British that drink? Most of my Eastern European friends back vodka like it's water and no one complains.
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    This is quite a funny, but also with many decent points blog on drinking and clubbing culture.

    http://clackblog.wordpress.com/2012/...-and-clubbing/
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    Its interesting how he conflates alcoholism with a tendency to get drunk as if they are even remotely comparable.
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    (Original post by alex.clacko)
    This is quite a funny, but also with many decent points blog on drinking and clubbing culture.

    http://clackblog.wordpress.com/2012/...-and-clubbing/
    I didn't think it was funny, more... pathetic and whiny.

    I don't understand why anyone has a problem with people happily socialising with their friends for a few hours and then having sex with a hot girl for the rest of the night. Why seek to demean such an enjoyable activity? It just makes you look jealous and bitter.
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    There is actually very little evidence to suggest an inherent compulsiveness towards the consumption of alcohol is genetic. There is more evidence that shows a correlation between ethnicity and alcohol tolerance. Certain groups, including most Europeans have more alcohol dehydrogenase (enzymes that break down alcohol). This is largely due to exposure to alcohol over a prolonged period of time, through ancestry (heck, in some historical periods the drinking water was considered so unsafe it was normal to drink watered down ale). This also applies to certain Asian groups like the Chinese and Japanese, who have had longer exposure to alcohol than Koreans, the Malayo-Polynesian group, and others native to the Pacific Rim. There have been studies to suggest that a severe lack of alcohol dehydrogenase in some ethnicities (namely Native American and Aboriginal) may actually lead to further alcohol compulsiveness.

    The UK does have one the highest rates of heavy drinking (percentage of population exceeding the daily limit). Although, for a country that is known for its binge drinking, the UK actually falls behind Iceland, Nigeria, The Netherlands, Mexico, Japan, Uganda, The Czech Republic, Canada, Finland and Belgium for episodic drinking (drinking excessively in one short period).

    http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/p...4_overview.pdf

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