[Einheri]

(Original post by The Lyceum)
Ah people in general don't seem to, but if you give them a book done by a Japanese guy twenty years ago its usually all fine and dandy eh?

In fairness I also think a lot of the stuff in the fechtbucher (diacritics!?! you either have a Mac or are a typing wizard) is a bit ****ty by modern standards (grappling much more developed, especially ground fighting; people no longer wielding gigantic knives with specifically circular handles just to make stabbing you more efficient etc) but I tend to think, except where work on body mechanics disagree, these people clearly knew what they were talking about.

I'm surprised and gratified to see somebody else on here who works with this kind of stuff as well as MMA etc. Too long have swords in the western world been associated with nerdy DnD dickheads rather than awesome alive training and full contact sparring. D

Haha, yeah, especially if it has a name like "The Mysteries of Monkey-Dragon-style Tai Jukwondo-Karate-fist".

Nope; I have an Icelandic laptop.

Yup, I train with spatha-type swords (specifically the late, Viking Age forms - not the classical Roman), seaxes and axes. Generally either with a a full size shield or without a shield, although I'd be interested in training with a buckler and small, parrying shields (buklari in Old Norse) do seem to have been used to some extent in the period (specifically the Viking Age, but also the Vendel Period, the Anglo-Saxon Period and the "Völkerwanderung" generally). I train for about four hours a week on top of my 8 hours of BJJ and four of Judo (I have a lot of free time, haha). I've also found grappling, especially subtle Judo trips like De Ashi Harai, Sasae Tsuri Komi Ashi, and Ko Soto Gari/Gake incredibly useful.

I take it you're a swordsman yourself?

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by Einheri)
BJJ > Prison Rape.

or BJ in your case

dont neg me einheri, that may save your ass in parkhurst one day...

[The Lyceum]

(Original post by Einheri)
Yup, I train with spatha-type swords (specifically the late, Viking Age forms - not the classical Roman), seaxes and axes. Generally either with a a full size shield or without a shield, although I'd be interested in training with a buckler and small, parrying shields (buklari in Old Norse) do seem to have been used to some extent in the period (specifically the Viking Age, but also the Vendel Period, the Anglo-Saxon Period and the "Völkerwanderung" generally). I train for about four hours a week on top of my 8 hours of BJJ and four of Judo (I have a lot of free time, haha). I've also found grappling, especially subtle Judo trips like De Ashi Harai, Sasae Tsuri Komi Ashi, and Ko Soto Gari/Gake incredibly useful.

I take it you're a swordsman yourself?

Ah interesting, so I'm guessing there's a heavy element of academia in what you do then due to lack of sources? You don't seem the kind of guy to flail around like a re-enactor, especially if you train BJJ etc.

I haven't looked a look at that period, I have notes from somewhere trying to apply general body mechanics extrapolated from traditions that use similarish weapons but it was sort of a dead end in my case, out of the large groups I know Hammaborg has done quite a bit with this period.

Yeah I guess I'm a swordsman but I'm somewhat more generalised in that I also (sport) Fence to a varsity competition level (well did until recently) in sabre and foil besides that I've had a lot of experience with traditional north western Indian styles, the Filipino stuff and, as far as European stuff is concerned, for quite a few years now I've been training in the early Italian stuff as a main focus (from Fiore dei Liberi to Filippo Vadi) but I also like to play with some of the Bolognesi school, Manciolino etc with the spada di filo and the partisana and rotella etc.

I love weapons. I just love fighting so much I have a serious problem. But with swords its something else isn't it? especially when its so fast and furious but controlled at the same time.

[Dr. Bassman]

(Original post by Einheri)
Training 10th Planet, brah?

Eh, no, tried high intensity stuff when I was baked before and it didn't work out too well haha. Good for really long runs or bike rides but nothing that needs to make me push hard. I also ate way too many cookies last night

Can never control my munchies, end of ruining my hard work with bad diet

[cfearon149]

So much conflict in this thread, people should just respect others choice of sport/martial art/recreational activity (depends on how people see themselves in terms of competitive level etc) The fact that people are gettin off their asses and training for something rather than sitting infront of a TV 24/7 is good enough for me

[Slapstick11]

Hey, just posting in here to promote my new free downloadable UKMMA magazine...

http://goo.gl/dxDcY

[Einheri]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
or BJ in your case

dont neg me einheri, that may save your ass in parkhurst one day...

I didn't neg you . . . but now I did.

(Original post by The Lyceum)
Ah interesting, so I'm guessing there's a heavy element of academia in what you do then due to lack of sources? You don't seem the kind of guy to flail around like a re-enactor, especially if you train BJJ etc.

I haven't looked a look at that period, I have notes from somewhere trying to apply general body mechanics extrapolated from traditions that use similarish weapons but it was sort of a dead end in my case, out of the large groups I know Hammaborg has done quite a bit with this period.

Yeah I guess I'm a swordsman but I'm somewhat more generalised in that I also (sport) Fence to a varsity competition level (well did until recently) in sabre and foil besides that I've had a lot of experience with traditional north western Indian styles, the Filipino stuff and, as far as European stuff is concerned, for quite a few years now I've been training in the early Italian stuff as a main focus (from Fiore dei Liberi to Filippo Vadi) but I also like to play with some of the Bolognesi school, Manciolino etc with the spada di filo and the partisana and rotella etc.

I love weapons. I just love fighting so much I have a serious problem. But with swords its something else isn't it? especially when its so fast and furious but controlled at the same time.

What I do is mostly reliant on reconstruction from later manuals on swordsmanship, especially the German and Italian. As well as accounts from the sagas; for example, we know that the primary target was the legs in saga literature, and this is quite well corroborated by the archaeology - the high frequency of cut marks on leg bones in warrior graves, for example, suggest that the lower legs and the inner thigh were often where a mortal blow was struck, the first probably because it was unarmoured and harder to defend and the latter likely because of the femoral artery. We'd then apply the historical techniques from the later middle ages and the renaissance to what we know of earlier practices, arms and armour, tactics, et cetera. It's very much tied to academia, and my field is primarily Old Norse and the Viking Age so that's where my interest in historical European swordsmanship comes from.

[el.sammo]

Hi there guys, I'm a 16 year old and Im thinking about learning some martial arts. I was just wondering which martial arts would be the best in a real fight situation; Im not learning it for sport but so that I can defend myself should I ever be in a fight. i was wondering which form focuses more on quickly disarming and incapacitating an opponent and less on the technical sequences and moves. I've been reading about krav maga but Id like some other opinions. Thanks guys
Sam

[Z-Ninja]

(Original post by el.sammo)
Hi there guys, I'm a 16 year old and Im thinking about learning some martial arts. I was just wondering which martial arts would be the best in a real fight situation; Im not learning it for sport but so that I can defend myself should I ever be in a fight. i was wondering which form focuses more on quickly disarming and incapacitating an opponent and less on the technical sequences and moves. I've been reading about krav maga but Id like some other opinions. Thanks guys
Sam

Hey bro, it actually depends on how well you can apply what you learn which gives you an advantage in a real self defence situation. Yes Krav Maga is good as well as aikido, Muay Thai, BJJ, Jujutsu kickboxking, karate, wing chun etc etc...
Tbh i think for the modern world Krav Maga would be a good place to start. Most martial arts require technical based moves unless you go into something like kickboxing..If there are good classes available near where yu live, ninjutsu would be good lol.
Good luck yo

[Einheri]

(Original post by Z-Ninja)
Hey bro, it actually depends on how well you can apply what you learn which gives you an advantage in a real self defence situation. Yes Krav Maga is good as well as aikido, Muay Thai, BJJ, Jujutsu kickboxking, karate, wing chun etc etc...
Tbh i think for the modern world Krav Maga would be a good place to start. Most martial arts require technical based moves unless you go into something like kickboxing..If there are good classes available near where yu live, ninjutsu would be good lol.
Good luck yo

You've obviously never kickboxed. Also, epic facepalm at calling Aikido "good" - Aikido is one of very few martial arts to actually make you worse at fighting than you were before you started.

[razzmatazz rach]

Just found this thread. I started wado ryu karate in September when I started uni. I am currently a yellow belt hoping to get to orange before I finish for summer.

I go more to improve my fitness rather than learn to fight and get belts but I do really enjoy it. I'm looking into competing in a few things next year if I feel ready, I'm going to watch some of my club compete to get an idea of what it is like first.

I joined for fun to being with and I am surprised with how much I enjoy it and take it so seriously now.

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Desire S

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by Einheri)
You've obviously never kickboxed. Also, epic facepalm at calling Aikido "good" - Aikido is one of very few martial arts to actually make you worse at fighting than you were before you started.

Here we go...

[Einheri]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
Here we go...

Are you saying that kickboxing doesn't have "technical based moves" (whatever that means, presumably that there is no technique to kickboxing)? Or that Aikido is "good"? Both are ludicrous statements.

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by Einheri)
Are you saying that kickboxing doesn't have "technical based moves" (whatever that means, presumably that there is no technique to kickboxing)? Or that Aikido is "good"? Both are ludicrous statements.

i dont know about 'kickboxing' to me that is akin to the boxercise you do in gym class
i only have experinece of muay thai, which is highly technical, assuming the people you spar with know what they are doing. If you dont have good technique, your sparring session would end pretty quickly

What is your definition of 'good' Aikido has its uses as do most established martial arts.


So you are both wrong.

[Dr. Bassman]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
i dont know about 'kickboxing'

You should start all of your posts with things you don't know about. That way we know for sure when you're talking a load of rubbish and are just posting to start arguments.

To the guy who was asking. Aikido is a load of nonsense, kickboxing is very technical. There are different types of kickboxing though. Avoid PUMA kickboxing and stuff like it, it's really bad IMO. Find something that offers more K-1 stlye rules unless you enjoy side kick/spin kick fests. If you can't use low kicks, it's probably not worth it and you should try boxing instead.

[Z-Ninja]

(Original post by Einheri)
You've obviously never kickboxed. Also, epic facepalm at calling Aikido "good" - Aikido is one of very few martial arts to actually make you worse at fighting than you were before you started.

No i havnt, but kickboxing does not include complicated patterns such as kata's that you have to learn, my bad in the previous post i meant compared to wing chun kickboxing would be easier to pick up.
Aikido is however good you make it bro, it can actually be really effective if you know how to use it.

[Z-Ninja]

(Original post by razzmatazz rach)
Just found this thread. I started wado ryu karate in September when I started uni. I am currently a yellow belt hoping to get to orange before I finish for summer.

I go more to improve my fitness rather than learn to fight and get belts but I do really enjoy it. I'm looking into competing in a few things next year if I feel ready, I'm going to watch some of my club compete to get an idea of what it is like first.

I joined for fun to being with and I am surprised with how much I enjoy it and take it so seriously now.

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Desire S

Thats great, good luck with your training. Martial arts is just more than self defence and fitness you will pick up really good skills while training such as confidence and respect etc.. watch some videos on youtube of tournaments, that should give you a good idea of how competing is carried out

[cpdavis]

Ooh I can now post on this thread

I've been Jitsu for nearly 4 months now I wasn't able to go for grading this month, however I am using the summer to train and get entered for September

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by Dr. Bassman)
You should start all of your posts with things you don't know about. That way we know for sure when you're talking a load of rubbish and are just posting to start arguments.

.

I was posting in order to settle an argument - my knowledge of kickboxing is limited because i ve never bothered wasting my time with it . I have seen fat guys take classes to lose weight

If you want me to answer some questions you have about about something useful like muay boran, or some proper martial arts in general, go ahead.

[Dr. Bassman]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
I was posting in order to settle an argument - my knowledge of kickboxing is limited because i ve never bothered wasting my time with it . I have seen fat guys take classes to lose weight

If you want me to answer some questions you have about about something useful like muay boran, or some proper martial arts in general, go ahead.

This is stupid, you don't know what you're talking about, never have, probably never will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvnAygvUARo

If you think this is for 'fat guys' then you're sadly mistaken.