(Original post by zjs)
But the cast of Eastenders constists of several ex-prostitutes, a guy that works in a second hand car lot, people that work on market stalls, several cleaners, several greasy spoon kichen workers etc. Alan Sugar is evidently intelligent enough to have an acute business sense and be good at cracking puns, while many cast members in Eastenders struggle to know where countries outside of the UK are.
But the point you're missing is this: you claimed me to be pretentious for using language more complicated than the most basic and for thinking Justin Bieber's music is mass produced crap with no real point, lyrical talent or anything that makes music appeal. The fact that you like cultural things - apparently - has no relation to liking Justin Bieber.
I assume nothing about your musical tastes. However, listening to **** music is still listening to **** music, whether or not you claim to be 'fun' or part of a wider taste. While something being good or bad is largely subjective, meaningless lyrics set to a totally forgettable melody is hardly something that isn't bad music.
How is Justin Bieber fun
? It's music, which can lead to you having fun, and you might enjoy it, but the act of listening to music isn't defined by most people as having fun.
That's the perfect example of trying to use one, basic, word to encompass various different things. A t.v. programme can be lighthearted and 'fun', but classing watching it as 'fun' is both an odd definition, and not the same sort of fun you'd expect to have when doing something like riding a rollercoaster or skiing.
I never said anything about liking things because they are fun. I'd call it moronic to like things simply because they 'get you going' and are 'fun', while claiming anything else is pretentious, which is what you were saying before this message. Your original point was that anything more complex than something with no depth whatsoever was pretentious, or that was certainly where your argument concluded.
The only thing I'm 'judging' is you writing in the most basic, barely intelligible, manner and then claiming everything else is pointless or pretentious.
It's phrases like 'showing off competition' which lead me to ask whether you're a moron.
Language is a means of expression. Words and language have subtle nuances and meanings. Trying to use blanket terms, like using fun to mean everything that a wider range of vocabulary would, is not being understated, it's making yourself harder to understand. It isn't 'showing off' to use an adult vocabulary as an adult.
Your logic is pretty patchy, but I'll ignore that to try and focus on the point you're attempting to make.
As I've said, I'm an adult. I use an adult vocabulary. This is a forum for students, those in voluntary education, from the ages of 16 (at the youngest) up to university age; 18-21, older students, postgraduate students, mature students etc. As such, it's not 'Theschoolchildroom'. It comprises mostly adults. So using an adult vocabulary seems perfectly acceptable, and not prententious.
The only 'complex' seems to be your inferiority complex. You seem to feel that anyone using an adult's vocabulary on a site broadly intended for adults and adult discussion is somehow an attempt to belittle you or try and prove something.
No, you said not every detail in every thing had to be analysed to make it worthwhile, which was an argument that I was never making. Your argument was that you like things because they're fun, and that liking anything that requires more mental exertion than kid's t.v. and kid's music was somehow pretentious.