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  1. Rajie_'s Avatar
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    Death Sentence - Balwant Singh - Share your views
    As many of you know about the famous 'Kony' video, Well another genocide has happened during 1984 - Present towards the Sikhs in india.
    Known as 'Operation Blue Star'

    It is said that almost a 8,000 (reported - CIVILLIANS) were wiped out even though the INDIAN government had said that only '400' Sikhs were killed.

    Women and young girls were raped on various occasions by the police/army.
    Men and young boys were killed
    = All because they were Sikh.

    The injustice was covered up by the indian government by setting curfews, urging all the reporters out of the holiest city in Punjab (were many Sikhs & other faiths gather to pray) - Alot of people around the world till this date to not know what happened.

    Balwant Singh has been in jail for 17 years; He was a part of a group who had planned to kill one of the leaders who organised these killings of innocent civillians in Punjab and now Balwant Singh is getting sentenced to death.

    Please refrain from any ignorant behaviour - Remember, Sikhs contributed heavily to world war 1&2

    Please spread awareness, this is injustice! - My view.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhpqjbFhJ1I - Balwant Singh Video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogwT_A4Oidw&sns=fb - The acts carried out by the police/government during 1984
    Last edited by Rajie_; 28-03-2012 at 23:53.
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    I am a sikh and i visited some of these memorial places in Amritsar, my grandfather fought in the British army during world war 2 then afterwards transferred to the Indian army. It is a bit of a hidden past i think and like you said not many people know.
  3. Rajie_'s Avatar
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    It's a sad fact, and people need to know about this. Is your grandfather still alive? and if so, does he remember 1984??
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    Indeed my Grandfather fought along side many Sikhs in Burma and India during the last war.
  5. Rajie_'s Avatar
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    Something should be done to spread what's happened to people in all different cultures etc
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    (Original post by Rajie_)
    It's a sad fact, and people need to know about this. Is your grandfather still alive? and if so, does he remember 1984??
    No unfortunately he died about 10 years
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    (Original post by raveen789)
    No unfortunately he died about 10 years
    Sorry to hear, can you please promote this thread though - it needs to be shown to people?
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    Re: Death Sentence - Balwant Singh - Share your views
    (Original post by Rajie_)
    As many of you know about the famous 'Kony' video, Well another genocide has happened during 1984 - Present towards the Sikhs in india.
    Known as 'Operation Blue Star'

    It is said that almost a quarter of a million Sikhs were wiped out even though the INDIAN government had said that only '400' Sikhs were killed.

    Women and young girls were raped on various occasions by the police/army.
    Men and young boys were killed
    = All because they were Sikh.

    The injustice was covered up by the indian government by setting curfews, urging all the reporters out of the holiest city in Punjab (were many Sikhs & other faiths gather to pray) - Alot of people around the world till this date to not know what happened.

    Balwant Singh was a part of a group who had planned to kill one of the leaders who organised these killings of innocent civillians in Punjab and now Balwant Singh is getting sentenced to death.

    Please refrain from any ignorant behaviour - Remember, Sikhs made up majority of the British Army during World War 1&2.

    Please spread awareness, this is injustice! - My view.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhpqjbFhJ1I - Balwant Singh Video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogwT_A4Oidw&sns=fb - The acts carried out by the police/government during 1984
    The Sikhs that suffered at the hands of the Indian government do need recognition, but there are a few things in your post that are just plain wrong.

    Even the highest estimate puts the death toll of Operation Blue Star at around 8,000.
    Sikhs didnt make anywhere near the majority of the British Army during either World War, indeed they have never done so.
  9. Rajie_'s Avatar
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    I was told my infromation, it's just my duty to pass on
    Thanks for correcting and please can you spread this around because its crazy how people haven't heard about it :/
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    I will pass the message on
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    (Original post by Rajie_)
    As many of you know about the famous 'Kony' video, Well another genocide has happened during 1984 - Present towards the Sikhs in india.
    Known as 'Operation Blue Star'

    It is said that almost a quarter of a million Sikhs were wiped out even though the INDIAN government had said that only '400' Sikhs were killed.

    Women and young girls were raped on various occasions by the police/army.
    Men and young boys were killed
    = All because they were Sikh.

    The injustice was covered up by the indian government by setting curfews, urging all the reporters out of the holiest city in Punjab (were many Sikhs & other faiths gather to pray) - Alot of people around the world till this date to not know what happened.

    Balwant Singh was a part of a group who had planned to kill one of the leaders who organised these killings of innocent civillians in Punjab and now Balwant Singh is getting sentenced to death.

    Please refrain from any ignorant behaviour - Remember, Sikhs made up majority of the British Army during World War 1&2.

    Please spread awareness, this is injustice! - My view.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhpqjbFhJ1I - Balwant Singh Video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogwT_A4Oidw&sns=fb - The acts carried out by the police/government during 1984
    I love Sikhs. You guys are awesome.

    Though you didn't make up the majority of the Army in the world wars.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    The Sikhs that suffered at the hands of the Indian government do need recognition, but there are a few things in your post that are just plain wrong.

    Even the highest estimate puts the death toll of Operation Blue Star at around 8,000.
    Sikhs didnt make anywhere near the majority of the British Army during either World War, indeed they have never done so.
    Operation Bluestar is when they launched attacked at Golden Temple. However the mass murders commited by the Indian Police, Beant. It was called operation woodrose. However if you say 8000 people died, how many of them were civillians, how many of them were children,mothers, fathers ect. If a person is being hanged due to killing one person how about those corrupt people who killed alot of people and are still free and in higher positions in goverment
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    (Original post by navarre)
    I love Sikhs. You guys are awesome.

    Though you didn't make up the majority of the Army in the world wars.
    :d
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    (Original post by avtar95)
    Operation Bluestar is when they launched attacked at Golden Temple. However the mass murders commited by the Indian Police, Beant. It was called operation woodrose. However if you say 8000 people died, how many of them were civillians, how many of them were children,mothers, fathers ect. If a person is being hanged due to killing one person how about those corrupt people who killed alot of people and are still free and in higher positions in goverment
    I know, but you stated that the death toll of Operation Bluestar was near a quarter of a million, which just isn't true. I have trouble finding any reliable statistics on Woodrose, I don't trust Sikhwiki I have to say, having seen their obvious bias on many other issues. And the only sources I can find that give a figure tend to be from websites that are 'Sikh-something' which is never a good sign.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    I know, but you stated that the death toll of Operation Bluestar was near a quarter of a million, which just isn't true. I have trouble finding any reliable statistics on Woodrose, I don't trust Sikhwiki I have to say, having seen their obvious bias on many other issues. And the only sources I can find that give a figure tend to be from websites that are 'Sikh-something' which is never a good sign.
    I advise you to research about jaswant singh kalera and what happend to him
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    (Original post by avtar95)
    I advise you to research about jaswant singh kalera and what happend to him
    WHat of him? I still see no solid figures or evidence for the death toll oft quoted by Sikhs.
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    (Original post by Annie72)
    Indeed my Grandfather fought along side many Sikhs in Burma and India during the last war.
    What was this, WW2?
  19. Annie72's Avatar
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    (Original post by Brutal Honesty)
    What was this, WW2?
    Yes it was.
  20. Rajie_'s Avatar
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    WHat of him? I still see no solid figures or evidence for the death toll oft quoted by Sikhs.
    Yoou have to take into consideration that SIKHS are treated as SECOND class citizens in Punjab (the majory Sikh land in india) ..The Massacre was government funded, therefore - these figures aren't fixed. Also, Many people who were killed and attacked throughout this massacre are missing, india doesn't have a proper recordds system anyway - it's mixed up. Believe me, It is 8,000 or even more. It was a MASS massacre
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