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  1. the man from space's Avatar
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    TSR Supreme Court
    The other day i saw a page for TSR parliament, however who shall protect us from the tyranny, the supreme court of TSR shall protect your civil liberties

    At the moment i am the only member and if you want to be part of the final group of 9, comment below

    THE MAN FROM SPACE FOR SUPREME COURT

    THIS IS NOT A TROLL THREAD
    Last edited by the man from space; 26-03-2012 at 19:52.
  2. gladders's Avatar
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    If the TSR Parliament is anything like the UK Parliament, a TSR Supreme Court would be pretty powerless against Parliament.

    Interesting self-nomination too
  3. the man from space's Avatar
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    Unlike the Uk we could move on to a more checks and balances systems to ensure fairness is ensured through Montesquieu theroy of Seperation of Power therefore the supreme court could hold the parliament as accountable
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    (Original post by the man from space)
    Unlike the Uk we could move on to a more checks and balances systems to ensure fairness is ensured through Montesquieu theroy of Seperation of Power therefore the supreme court could hold the parliament as accountable
    Ironically when Montesquieu described separation of powers he specifically had the British constitution in mind!

    A US-style Supreme Court would be undemocratic as it would encroach on the rights of the elected House of Commons.
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    (Original post by gladders)
    Ironically when Montesquieu described separation of powers he specifically had the British constitution in mind!

    A US-style Supreme Court would be undemocratic as it would encroach on the rights of the elected House of Commons.
    True, but what, then, would be the highest court in the TSR Kingdom?
  6. gladders's Avatar
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    The TSR Parliament, I would reckon even then, such a thing as a court of law on a politics forum is a bit strange. Particularly as I would wager most people here do not have sufficient knowledge of the law to be good judges or lawyers.
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    (Original post by gladders)
    If the TSR Parliament is anything like the UK Parliament, a TSR Supreme Court would be pretty powerless against Parliament.

    Interesting self-nomination too
    If you're serious about this you should start a petition in the MHoC or try and get a party to submit it as a bill or something. Otherwise it'll be seperate and disjointed from the workings of the MHoC, it'd only really work if we had it integrated with the laws currently passed in the MHoC as well
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    (Original post by gladders)
    Ironically when Montesquieu described separation of powers he specifically had the British constitution in mind!

    A US-style Supreme Court would be undemocratic as it would encroach on the rights of the elected House of Commons.

    Well, if you're speaking with the real House of Commons in mind, then there are good arguments against encroaching the rights of the elected House of Commons based on the electoral system and enfranchisement. No idea how the TSR one is done since I left a long, long time ago.
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    Well, if you're speaking with the real House of Commons in mind, then there are good arguments against encroaching the rights of the elected House of Commons based on the electoral system and enfranchisement. No idea how the TSR one is done since I left a long, long time ago.
    off the top of my head I can't find a way we'd be able to have a US style one at the moment, and if we did have one to be effective with the MHoC we'd need to have it voted in by parliament either as a bill or a motion or a petition or something.
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    (Original post by gladders)
    The TSR Parliament, I would reckon even then, such a thing as a court of law on a politics forum is a bit strange. Particularly as I would wager most people here do not have sufficient knowledge of the law to be good judges or lawyers.
    You suggest that the legislative should also be the judiciary? I'm guessing you mean a separate aspect of the legislative, or do you actually mean the members of the houses themselves?

    Besides, TSR has no need of a court because there are no parties to call for proceedings :P.
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    (Original post by Chazzybish)
    You suggest that the legislative should also be the judiciary? I'm guessing you mean a separate aspect of the legislative, or do you actually mean the members of the houses themselves?
    No, the question I was responding to was who should defend our liberties. That is naturally Parliament.

    (as an aside there was nothing wrong with the House of Lords being our highest court, but hey ho)

    Besides, TSR has no need of a court because there are no parties to call for proceedings :P.
    Agreed!
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    Pretty pointless I reckon. At most they could overturn a law but that's it. Their use would be infrequent.
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    Wouldn't work at all.
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    We have the Libertarian Party to counter all these other tyrannical statists - just go vote for us.
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    UKIP currently do have a Supreme Court planned.
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    My concern about this idea is how it will actually work and be implemented. I look forward to the debate.
  17. Matthew_Lowson's Avatar
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    The notion is a court which would hold constitutional jurisdiction.
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    The notion is a court which would hold constitutional jurisdiction.
    The German Federal Constitutional Court
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    The notion is a court which would hold constitutional jurisdiction.
    How would its composition be decided?

    Oh I like the idea of there being a confirmation process like in the US - the government could be responsible for nominations.
    Last edited by JPKC; 07-04-2012 at 21:03.
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    Re: TSR Supreme Court
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    How would its composition be decided?
    All in the amendment which hopefully you'll see soon in the Government forum.
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