[morecambebay]

I thought there already was. Im sure that there is a clause in the law which says that vunerable adults are off limits. It's just that the category of 'vunerable adults' isnt wide enough.

[avupa]

(Original post by NB_ide)
Yea it would be tricky to implement but I'm sure we could come up with some way to judge an adult's suitability for it. We already only grant certain powers to people who are deemed physically and/or psychologically fit for it (e.g. holding certain jobs, having positions of power, owning weapons, etc.)

You're also not realising another thing. Was there a problem in the first place?
I personally, didn't realise there was a problem with how it was in the first place.

You're just one of those 'bleeding heart liberals' (as the americans would call them), who want to save humanity with your brilliant master plan.

You've created a problem with your mind, and now you're going to solve it and be worshipped for it. Go save some muslim rape gangs or something.

[Ch1pp0]

(Original post by NB_ide)
This is quite a novel suggestion so I expect most of you will object to it immediately - but do explain why. There may well be something I haven't thought of.

Sorry but I thought I should let you know this idea has been thought of many times. I'm constantly surrounded by people who support the idea of a 'licence to breed' whereby a certain set of criteria should determine if you can pass on your genes to the next generation. Unfortunately, if things keep going the way they are, it may become a reality.

[Leon Trotsky]

(Original post by Stacy93)
Ya can't allow other folks to mate unless they pass your idea of smart euough?
Sounds a lot like eugenics! A guy named Adolf thought that was a good idea 'bout eighty years, or so, ago!

Who are you referring to here?

[markrush]

(Original post by isitinyet?)
mindless sex zombie walking around wiling to **** anything

Sorry where do I find one of these again?

[avupa]

(Original post by morecambebay)
I thought there already was. Im sure that there is a clause in the law which says that vunerable adults are off limits. It's just that the category of 'vunerable adults' isnt wide enough.

I upvoted you, but then I reread your last post, and noticed the last bit.

The human brain hasn't changed much for tens of thousands of years. There was a time when we didn't know how to write, didn't know how to read, didn't know a lot of things that we know today. Those types would probably do very poorly to **** in any modern test of intelligence.

Those humans, probably in the eyes of people like you would be idiots, but frankly, you people should get off your high horses, because they are probably more capable and practical and intelligent then most of you spoilt brats, with your 120 IQs, who have been caught in the evolutionary parent trap.

Mongrels~

[morecambebay]

(Original post by avupa)
I upvoted you, but then I reread your last post, and noticed the last bit.

The human brain hasn't changed much for tens of thousands of years. There was a time when we didn't know how to write, didn't know how to read, didn't know a lot of things that we know today. Those types would probably do very poorly to **** in any modern test of intelligence.

Those humans, probably in the eyes of people like you would be idiots, but frankly, you people should get off your high horses, because they are probably more capable and practical and intelligent then most of you spoilt brats, with your 120 IQs, who have been caught in the evolutionary parent trap.

Mongrels~

What is your problem? I havent said anything you should be disgreeing with. There are some very very vunerable people in society, vunerable people need protection...sometimes even from themselves. Are you saying that it is ok for every adult to have sex no matter what their situation? You live in a dream world. There comes a line where banning people from doing something is helping not harming them.

Tens of thousands of years ago unless they were banned from leaving the cave, the vunerable were eaten by lions. Today, unless they are banned from having sex, they end up with diseases they cant cure and children they cant raise.

[ArcaneAnna]

(Original post by Stacy93)
Whatcha saying dude?
Ya can't allow other folks to mate unless they pass your idea of smart euough?
Sounds a lot like eugenics! A guy named Adolf thought that was a good idea 'bout eighty years, or so, ago!
Not been many people since then given much credable tought to it since. Maybe there's a reason for that?

Adolf went too far by exterminating people that alreay exist. The OP is saying to pretty much tie the tubes of the less-intelligent.

I have to both agree and disagree with the OP on this. I have more than once in conversation said that there is a huge divide between the intelligent and the not so intelligent. Just look at the type of people on Jeremy Kyle, they're like a whole different sub-species. No? Am I wrong?
It would get rid of a lot of bother by stopping these people reproducing by steralising them. How you would decide on who to steralise? I have no idea. (IQ tests are ****e)
Intelligence is a heritable trait. Enviromental aspects; well educated families tend to produce well educated children and vice versa for the low-socioeconomic classes.

HOWEVER, at the same time you cannot say this for all. You do sometimes get the odd shining bright light even from the dumps.

[NB_ide]

(Original post by ArcaneAnna)
Adolf went too far by exterminating people that alreay exist. The OP is saying to pretty much tie the tubes of the less-intelligent.

I have to both agree and disagree with the OP on this. I have more than once in conversation said that there is a huge divide between the intelligent and the not so intelligent. Just look at the type of people on Jeremy Kyle, they're like a whole different sub-species. No? Am I wrong?
It would get rid of a lot of bother by stopping these people reproducing by steralising them. How you would decide on who to steralise? I have no idea. (IQ tests are ****e)
Intelligence is a heritable trait. Enviromental aspects; well educated families tend to produce well educated children and vice versa for the low-socioeconomic classes.

HOWEVER, at the same time you cannot say this for all. You do sometimes get the odd shining bright light even from the dumps.

Many jobs can only be filled by people with weaker intellects. An "intelligent" person trying to do a mundane, low-level job finds it to be torture, while a dimmer sort of person just gets on with it and doesn't mind.

[Dirac Delta Function]

(Original post by avupa)
tl;dr

You not getting any pussy nerd?

haha.

[BSc.Pro.Logic]

I agree 100% with OP

I think Zero to Infinity would work absolutely fine!! Maybe it can also scale to the day of the week? Perhaps Wacky Wednesday and Saucy Sundays?

[fat_hobbit]

(Original post by gmseahorse)
Unfortunately this borders on eugenics, ie thick people shouldn't be able to breed. Also how on earth are you proposing to police the issue, police barging into bedrooms of those to thick to have sex.

castrate them

[NB_ide]

(Original post by gmseahorse)
Unfortunately this borders on eugenics, ie thick people shouldn't be able to breed. Also how on earth are you proposing to police the issue, police barging into bedrooms of those to thick to have sex.

Well we manage to police adults ****ing children, right? It starts with a propaganda campaign to convince people that it's "wrong", and that stops the majority right away, and makes people report each other as well. Then the rest can receive some police attention when required, if someone is suspected of having sex with (it will be termed statutory rape) with someone of insufficient intelligence/experience/awareness/whatever we decide to look at.

[navarre]

(Original post by NB_ide)
Though it varies from place to place, there is usually some concept of the age of consent [to sexual activity], below which a person is not allowed to touch other people (or be touched) in certain places, in certain ways, in most circumstances.

This is because we consider that people of this young age are, compared to the average adult person or the person they may grow up to be, prone to making very different decisions and understanding differently the consequences of their actions.

Now, it's completely impractical to treat everyone individually in this case so we just set an age threshold and that's that. Just like we do for lots of other things - we have generalise according to age to estimate what an individual will be like. We're no longer allowed to generalise according to a number of other important personal qualities such as gender, but for now age is OK to talk about.

Now, I don't know about you but I have met plenty of grown adults who are thick as pig ****, and a good few 12-16 year olds, say, who are really switched on and with it. Surely if we forbid certain activities to younguns because they're basically still too stupid to understand them like an adult does, shouldn't we forbid them to adults who are as stupid as the average sub-16 year old?

If there's a 25 year old woman who has a very low IQ and gets along fine in life like most of us do, but just is basically thick and not as smart as the average 15 year old girl (quite plausible), then isn't it just as wrong for a man to **** her as a 15 year old? Would he be "taking advantage of her" and should he be punished?

How can we deal with this? I think it's a pressing issue, actually, and we should basically ban people with an IQ under some threshold from engaging in sexual activity or doing many other things children aren't allowed to, for example entering into legal contracts and so forth. It would be for their own protection.

This is quite a novel suggestion so I expect most of you will object to it immediately - but do explain why. There may well be something I haven't thought of.

This is one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

And I've read the Daily Mail.

[POWCATTY]

i think your problem is that youre seeing it too black and white. there is no way to effectively test the intelligence of a person to such a level as to decide whether or not they should be allowed to participate in a physical relationship. i work with disabled adults, all with an IQ below average. i can tell you right now that the intelligence of these people is pretty fairly linked to social and mental maturity. you cant just say that 'stupid people' should be banned, as that means very different things to different people. nor can you say below average IQ, as half the population falls under that category. when you start to get into 'significantly' below average you begin looking at people with mental illnesses (for want of a much better word) such as those with downs syndrome and cerebral palsy. these people tend to need care for the whole of their lives and so wont be living like 'normal' people anyway. in addition to this, their mental age is often that of a child so their thoughts arent on sexual attraction and they tend not to participate in sexual intercourse because of this reason.
going back to the people i work with...all with fairly low IQ, there are still some of them that do infact have partners that they regularly see and they are perfectly capable of taking charge of this aspect of their life.

i do understand where you are coming from, but i think you didnt really think into it deeply enough. for example, if someone were to have sex with someone who wasnt able to understand...im fairly sure that is illegal anyway so there is no need to protect them as theyalready have the law on their side.
i hope i talked about what you were thinking, and didnt just meander off down one aspect of it

[Moiraclaire]

120 would mean we could involve into a smarter and better cultured society.
but On a serious note. 80-90 and we should think twice - it's not a life worth living, for the person, for culture, and for the economy.

Eugenics will never be popular though, everyone will know and like at least one person who falls into the reject category.

[BSc.Pro.Logic]

(Original post by navarre)
This is one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

And I've read the Daily Mail.

Lol that made me burst out with laughter

[nmudz_009]

No. Intelligence and maturity are two very different things

[NB_ide]

(Original post by POWCATTY)
where you are coming from, but i think you didnt really think into it deeply enough. for example, if someone were to have sex with someone who wasnt able to understand...im fairly sure that is illegal anyway so there is no need to protect them as theyalready have the law on their side.

How is it currently determined whether or not someone is "able to understand"?

[isitinyet?]

(Original post by markrush)
Sorry where do I find one of these again?

gatecrasher on a saturday night