If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Restricting them from a bad thing, same goes for muslim men.(Original post by madders94)
But not everyone does - I've had one serious relationship (of the others, one was a holiday thing [we worked at the same holiday place] that didn't get further than chatting to each other whilst I was at work and he was on his break, and the other lasted three months, we kissed and then he turned out to be a doosh), and I am still in it - it has lasted fourteen months, we want to get married in the future but money/age gets in the way - if I was a Muslim, I wouldn't be able to have sex with him, even though I am 17, therefore it is restricting women.
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I honestly wouldn't mind what religion, if any, they followed. If they feel it benefits them in some way it's not for me to stop them. I would only become invovled with their religion if they were hurting either themselves or others.
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I'm not saying it's superawesome answer to everything, but it's hard to take moral issue with a religion which actually preaches that you should be incredibly nice to and respectful of all life. If everyone in the Britain circa WW2 had been Jain we'd all be speaking German, but if everyone in Germany circa WW2 had been Jain we'd not have had WW2 in the first place.(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?(Original post by dotdotdotdot)
Restricting them from a bad thing, same goes for muslim men.
Saving you from becoming a slut, damn that is so bad isn't it.
Sex is not a bad thing! So, the fact that I have had sex with one person makes me a slut? I hope my kids never become Muslims if this is the attitude!
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?No the going from boyfriend to boyfriend bit.(Original post by madders94)
Sex is not a bad thing! So, the fact that I have had sex with one person makes me a slut? I hope my kids never become Muslims if this is the attitude!
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?On the surface yes they are similar however Islam is more restricting in many ways.(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
Islam and Judaism is basically the same thing, circumcision, kosher meat/no pork, both believe in Moses and the whole Abraham/God thing. What do you think about 'pretend Jews' who are basically no different to to a white person except they may celebrate Hannukah? Would you be fine with your son/daughter being one of those? Your avatar isn't something that a rabbi would welcome.
Pretend Jews? WTF are you on? they are called Liberal, Reform or Self-hating Jews. I would not mind that as they are still Jewish.
I don't care if any old Rabbi likes it or not, it isn't their avatar. Anyway my Rabbi is more relaxed on these things so feh.
I am not from Algeria or Morocco, I come from France (hence the name), I was born and raised in Neuilly-sur-Seine, I actually think it is quite insulting that you think I am Algerian or Moroccan... how did you even jump to that from tehFrance?(Original post by Dragonfly07)
Judging by your (tehFrance) name you're probably algerian/moroccan too.Last edited by tehFrance; 28-03-2012 at 11:36. -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I know so many Muslim girls that do those things it's unreal.(Original post by dotdotdotdot)
Yh she won't be able to clubbing and getting drunk out of her head. Or have several sexual experiences with multiple boys throughout her youth, what a shame.
Not trolling, thats what basically the majority of the non muslims girls i see do, unless they're hardcore christians or some other faith which frowns upon those things. -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I would bring my children up the same way I was brought up in that respect, my parents never taught me anything about religion, positives and negative, they didn't tell me it existed so I could make my own mind up about what I think, or feel.
I am an atheist and anti-theists and they only told me they were agnostic-atheist (non-dogmatic) when I was about 15.
I think raising your child follow a religion, or be completely opposed to religion is child abuse and manipulation, children should be left to make up their own minds.
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Exactly. Just as you don't want me to judge islam based on muslim people's actions, you should stop judging atheism based on atheist people's actions.(Original post by dotdotdotdot)
Then they would be considered a "bad muslim".
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I don't deny that they don't. Then they would be considered bad muslims, most of the which you talk about I've noticed are muslim in name only.(Original post by PandyAndy)
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?People have relationships and they break up. That's life, and it's wrong to shelter people from the fact that sometimes, relationships don't work out, people can't work out their differences etc. Let's face it, the religion well-known for honour killings is never going to have a balanced view of relationships, is it?(Original post by dotdotdotdot)
No the going from boyfriend to boyfriend bit. -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I was actaully judging society in the north east of england, more acurrately.(Original post by Dragonfly07)
Exactly. Just as you don't want me to judge islam based on muslim people's actions, you should stop judging atheism based on atheist people's actions.
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Its culture not religion.(Original post by madders94)
People have relationships and they break up. That's life, and it's wrong to shelter people from the fact that sometimes, relationships don't work out, people can't work out their differences etc. Let's face it, the religion well-known for honour killings is never going to have a balanced view of relationships, is it? -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?What is?(Original post by dotdotdotdot)
Its culture not religion. -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Yeah most French jews were born and raised in france, but they're from north african decent. (I don't know many french ashkenazi jews)(Original post by tehFrance)
On the surface yes they are similar however Islam is more restricting in many ways.
Pretend Jews? WTF are you on? they are called Liberal, Reform or Self-hating Jews. I would not mind that as they are still Jewish.
I don't care if any old Rabbi likes it or not, it isn't their avatar. Anyway my Rabbi is more relaxed on these things so feh.
I am not from Algeria or Morocco, I come from France (hence the name), I was born and raised in Neuilly-sur-Seine, I actually think it is quite insulting that you think I am Algerian or Moroccan... how did you even jump to that from tehFrance? -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Its stupid culture behind honour killings, asian culture to be precise, I'm sure hinus sikhs etc would also agree.(Original post by madders94)
What is? -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?I am sorry but I am not of North African descent, dad's side come from Poland and mother's side is British.(Original post by Dragonfly07)
Yeah most French jews were born and raised in france, but they're from north african decent. (I don't know many french ashkenazi jews) -
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Excuse me but if you're going to judge people based on atheism then let me make a few clear things for you(Original post by dotdotdotdot)
I was actaully judging society in the north east of england, more acurrately.
But all the same the majority of the people who do those things are atheists.
1) Atheism isn't a set of rules. It means you don't carry a belief about any god.
2) Atheists do things of their own free will. If they do anything good/bad, it's not out of fear of being punished/rewarded from a non existent god
3) Islam harms more people than booze/sex ever will.
4) It's a fact that lifestyle in countries that aren't run by atheist states is far better than those run by religious states. If you hate atheism and love islam so much, you can run to saudi arabia where you can be oppressed to your heart's content
5) Yes, I'm being islamophobic. Your religion is despicable and disgusting.
6) No, I'm not being racist. I'm an immigrant myself
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Re: If your son/daughter converted to Islam what would your honest reaction be?Oh. I guess I shouldn't jump to conclusions then.(Original post by tehFrance)
I am sorry but I am not of North African descent, dad's side come from Poland and mother's side is British.
