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  1. MirandaPanda's Avatar
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    (Original post by anonstudent1)
    There is still a massive Muslim population in India though, although they have sometimes come under attack. Still don't think making borders because of religious reasons is ever a good idea.
    There are almost as many Muslims living in India alone, than there are in the entire country of Pakistan.
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    So, who will be attending the vigil outside parliament tomorrow evening?

    itv news reports from today's birmingham protest... there will be much bigger ones to follow http://www.itv.com/news/central/upda...protest-march/
    Last edited by Rajoana; 28-03-2012 at 15:27.
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    (Original post by MirandaPanda)
    Oh please :rolleyes:

    The OP is clearly someone sympathetic/biased towards the individual who is soon to be hanged, and is providing information as such. I have yet to see ANY polls which indicate that the majority of Sikhs support not hanging this individual, and can most certainly say that the entire state was not "closed down" from the protests the OP is mentioning.

    As for Sikhs, they identify as Indian and heck even the country's leader is an Indian Sikh.
    what an idiotic thing to say. Just because there isnt a poll means that there isnt support for Baba Rajoana, have you been following BBC News, Indian News Channels, Sikh Channel, Sangat TV, Asian Network a big majority of Sikhs, including Panjab government want Baba Rajoana saved, how ignorant
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    (Original post by Darkphilosopher)
    Yes. Legal systems exist for a reason.
    but if there isnt a just one, then what?
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    From what I have read, this guy has asked to be hanged so he can become a martyr, anyway I still believe he should not be hanged but imprisoned for life.
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    I admire the Sikh for their soul of community. They're very united and peaceful IMO.

    Note: I'm not making an assumption that this particular person is guilty/innocent. Just talking about Sikhs in general.
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    Well in this video we can see they have now decided to start smashing innocent protesters today, the Indian state does not wait for violence to get violent themselves.

    i think the original point was that any deployment of large numbers of official military/police forces seemingly far more powerful than necessary in areas with unarmed protestors was proof of malicious intent. i was debating that point, saying that it doesn't necessarily indicate an intention to attack the protestors. the fact that they did in this case attack doesn't contradict my argument.
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
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    what about "if all peaceful means are exhaused it is rightous to pick up the sword" do you agree? There is no difference between Baba Rajoana taking care of Beant Butcher as there is if a syrian takes care of Al-Assad. Will you condemn the killer of Al-Assad or Gaddafi?
    I could understand the killer of Al-Assad or Gaddafi, but I still condemn such actions. Gaddafi's killer should still face some form of punishment for what he did; as I said before, allowing killers to be free and face no punishment is not suitable grounds on which to form a civilised society.
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    I could understand the killer of Al-Assad or Gaddafi, but I still condemn such actions. Gaddafi's killer should still face some form of punishment for what he did; as I said before, allowing killers to be free and face no punishment is not suitable grounds on which to form a civilised society.
    fair point, but if there is no mechanism for that justice to happen, what do you do, i mean no tom dick or harry can go up to the Hague and present a case can they?
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
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    I could understand the killer of Al-Assad or Gaddafi, but I still condemn such actions. Gaddafi's killer should still face some form of punishment for what he did; as I said before, allowing killers to be free and face no punishment is not suitable grounds on which to form a civilised society.
    Well he has suffered 17 years in jail.

    Besides, you heard of someone called Nelson Mandela?
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    (Original post by okapobcfc08)
    fair point, but if there is no mechanism for that justice to happen, what do you do, i mean no tom dick or harry can go up to the Hague and present a case can they?
    No, you are right, they can't. A stable and enforced justice system is what they need, and unfortunately, lack.
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    No, you are right, they can't. A stable and enforced justice system is what they need, and unfortunately, lack.
    i agree
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    Well he has suffered 17 years in jail.

    Besides, you heard of someone called Nelson Mandela?
    17 years in prison is a punishment, what I was getting at was that if that is the punishment for such a crime in that country, then it should be implemented. He should not be a 'special case' simply because he was part of an assassination of somebody that had himself commited crimes.
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    Court has Delayed the hanging of Rojoana after pressure from Sikh activists. According to the news anyway
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    Court has Delayed the hanging of Rojoana after pressure from Sikh activists. According to the news anyway
    The official stand of ALL sikh groups is they will not rest until Rajoana is released. They want him to take up post of Akal Takht Jathedar (leader of all sikhs).

    this seems just a political stunt to attempt to pacify sikhs.
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    Court has Delayed the hanging of Rojoana after pressure from Sikh activists. According to the news anyway
    Seems stupid, is it that easy to delay the hanging of someone?
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    He played a role in killing someone who was responsible for over 50,000 murders. This fact shouldn't be overlooked- it's unbelievably stupid to jump to the conclusion, "he killed so it's fair."
    Last edited by P.Kaur; 28-03-2012 at 16:11.
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    (Original post by MirandaPanda)
    I have yet to see ANY polls which indicate that the majority of Sikhs support not hanging this individual, and can most certainly say that the entire state was not "closed down" from the protests the OP is mentioning.

    As for Sikhs, they identify as Indian and heck even the country's leader is an Indian Sikh.
    Wow. Sikhs all over the world have been protesting about the hanging for days, households in Punjab have put up orange flags in support of Balwant Singh, there have been countless television programmes discussing how we can help, I'm shocked that you know nothing of all this... it takes a simple Google search to find that you're wrong.
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    (Original post by Darkphilosopher)
    Yes. Legal systems exist for a reason.
    Absolutely. It doesn't work, however, when a country doesn't impliment its own legal system and instead the people of power carry out murders themselves.
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    Re: India is about to hang someone.
    (Original post by Rajoana)
    The official stand of ALL sikh groups is they will not rest until Rajoana is released. They want him to take up post of Akal Takht Jathedar (leader of all sikhs).

    this seems just a political stunt to attempt to pacify sikhs.
    If they hang him, sikhs are unhappy.

    If they dont, its a political stunt.

    What do they actually want?
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