[TheGrinningSkull]

(Original post by notastampcollector)
You can't compare a girl with a house. If I was planning to spend as much time inside a girl as I would a house i probably would consider signing some kind of agreement.

You assume I am talking about a girl? Did I mention "girl" anywhere? My statement works both ways like the person I quoted.
The person I quoted said "Would you buy a car without a test drive?"
Again, the person I quoted compared the humans in questions to an object; a car. So why is it that I am not allowed to counter their argument by making a similar comparison?

[TheGrinningSkull]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
would you sign a contract without inspecting the house first?

So does "inspecting" a partner have to involve sex?

Why can't you inspect their qualities and whether you'd be happy with your potential partner? It doesn't have to involve sex does it? Maybe spend time with them and see what they're like as a person.

Likewise with a house, would you take a shower while inspecting it?

(On a side note, I'm loving these counter would yous going back and fore XD)

[Multitalented me]

(Original post by TheGrinningSkull)
Would you live in a house without signing the lease/contract?

That's different, the fact of the matter is there's no point marrying someone only to find out that you're not sexually compatible

[Stiff Little Fingers]

(Original post by TheGrinningSkull)
So does "inspecting" a partner have to involve sex?

Why can't you inspect their qualities and whether you'd be happy with your potential partner? It doesn't have to involve sex does it? Maybe spend time with them and see what they're like as a person.

Likewise with a house, would you take a shower while inspecting it?

(On a side note, I'm loving these counter would yous going back and fore XD)

Well, it doesn't have to, but it's a good idea. How else do you ensure you're sexually compatible with the person you're tying yourself down to?

[Linweth]

Why do many people feel the need to have an opinion about other people's private lives?

[Jam']

What is the premise by which you stand with respect to your suggestion regarding your use of the word 'moral'? I don't think there are any moralistic confines under any intelligible understanding that place pre-marital sex as immoral.

[TheGrinningSkull]

(Original post by Alofleicester)
Well, it doesn't have to, but it's a good idea. How else do you ensure you're sexually compatible with the person you're tying yourself down to?

(Original post by Multitalented me)
That's different, the fact of the matter is there's no point marrying someone only to find out that you're not sexually compatible

Sexually compatible in what way?

Is the whole point of marriage just for sex when it comes down to it? Or is it more about being happy with someone for the rest of your life?

[NuclearFusion]

I'm for it, as others have mentioned, you want to test before committing. Which is actually a genuine point, because it is important to ensure you are I suppose 'sexually compatible' before committing to being together for a lifetime. It would be awful to get married, and then realise that your partner is rubbish in bed, or just doesn't feel like it should.
That said, I would still wait until I am married before having any children.

[kingsarecool]

(Original post by marcusfox)
Yes, if anything you must absolutely compare the market and try before you buy.

Otherwise you risk being stuck in a relationship with someone sexually incompatible.

so what???
you can practice together and get better.
for the long term sex isn't that important its about companionship and loyalty and other things.

(Original post by Multitalented me)
Would you buy a car without a test drive?

we are humans not objects anyone who's with you just for the sex is not worth it

[Stiff Little Fingers]

(Original post by TheGrinningSkull)
Sexually compatible in what way?

Is the whole point of marriage just for sex when it comes down to it? Or is it more about being happy with someone for the rest of your life?

No, but that's because marriage has no point. If you're living in an exclusive relationship with such a commitment, then it's important to make sure you're on the same page in the boudoir, in terms of your libido, preferences in other styles besides conventional sex etc.

[bmqib]

I agree with other people's decision to do it, but I would personally avoid casual seksual intercourse.

[Aspiringlawstudent]

I don't plan on getting married, so obviously I have no problem with pre-marital sex.

The idea of marriage seems wholly anachronistic, in my opinion.

[Multitalented me]

(Original post by TheGrinningSkull)
Sexually compatible in what way?

Is the whole point of marriage just for sex when it comes down to it? Or is it more about being happy with someone for the rest of your life?

How many marriages do you see where they don't have sex at all? It's a major part of most relationships & if your not sexually compatible (i.e men/women are comfortable with different things) then this isn't likely to change

[marcusfox]

(Original post by kingsarecool)
so what???
you can practice together and get better.
for the long term sex isn't that important its about companionship and loyalty and other things.

I disagree. Sex is one of the most important things for both partners in a relationship.

[kingsarecool]

(Original post by marcusfox)
I disagree. Sex is one of the most important things for both partners in a relationship.

okay?? so if you were in love with someone and they had all the qualities that you were looking for but you found out that she wasn't sexually compatible would you leave her just because of that???

[marcusfox]

(Original post by kingsarecool)
okay?? so if you were in love with someone and they had all the qualities that you were looking for but you found out that she wasn't sexually compatible would you leave her just because of that???

You're kidding yourself if you believe that both partners can be happy in a marriage where their sexual desires aren't being satisfied. Pre-marital sex is one of those ways that you can work out whether or not they will be.

Sexual satisfaction, if it can't be found in a marriage, will be found elsewhere.

Why do you think one of the major causes of relationship breakdown is because one or both partners aren't satisfied with the action they are getting in the bedroom?

[bmqib]

What has society come to, there's more to life and love than sex. Ya'll should take up Islam and become practicing Muslims if you want to be happy.

[DolallyDucky]

I wouldn't actively promote anyone to casually have sex, but if you are in a serious relationship and want to have sex, I don't see why you shouldn't

[marcusfox]

(Original post by bmqib)
What has society come to, there's more to life and love than sex. Ya'll should take up Islam and become practicing Muslims if you want to be happy.

Plenty of Muslims are unhappy precisely because they can't have premarital sex.

Some of them try to kid themselves that they can arrange a temporary Islamic marriage, have it off, divorce, and then it's all OK.

[Schmokie Dragon]

I don't (personally) see how this is a moral issue. It's not an inherently harmful act and comes down to individuals having the freedom to use their bodies however they wish. If it was something that was inherently harmful, beyond harm to the individuals consenting to it, I could see why some would consider it immoral.

One might argue that pre-marital sex can harm society, but then the question is why should individuals feel obliged to safeguard the interests of the wider population and why such utilitarian concerns trump personal freedom. It's also important to show that pre-marital sex is the issue, not other concerns such as irresponsible attitudes towards contraception and sexual health. It also needs to be shown that changing relationship and sexual attitudes actually cause harm to society rather than just changing it.