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SCLY3 Beliefs in Society June 2012 Thread

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Reply 80
Fundamentalism and social change: ARMSTRONG, claimed that fundamentalism is strongly linked to political and economic factors e.g Iran 1979, with the new Ayatollah reverting back to totalism and such in order to throw out western ideals.


Postmodernism comes in: Lyotard claimed that one feature of a postmodernist society is lack of identity (other theorists look into this also). You could say that fundamentalism provides identity and close bonds with the religion in question. You could AO2 with the concept that fundamentalism actually emerged ages ago when the world was considered not be in an era of postmodernity.
Reply 81
Secularisation: Woodhead and Heelas (2000) claimed that there are two types of theory relating to secularisation: differentiation and disappearance.

Bruce claims that secularisation is active in society, leading to his claim that religion has moved from the public to the private sphere. HOWEVER this can be challenged: this appears to be euro-centric, look at public displays of religion in USA. however this could well only be civil (Bellah, neo-functionalist)

Wilson claims that secularisation is the process whereby religious institutions lose power and influence over society. (i think...might wanna revise this bit)

Comte also claimed in the late 19th century that society goes through 3 stages: theological, metaphysical and positive. Link this to secularisation however argue cannot be applied on a universal scale etc.
Reply 82
Does anyone have any contemporary examples of conflicts or something that can be mentioned in the exam? Nothing in the textbook is particularly modern! It'd be greatly appreciated :smile:
Reply 83
Original post by alexsasg
Does anyone have any contemporary examples of conflicts or something that can be mentioned in the exam? Nothing in the textbook is particularly modern! It'd be greatly appreciated :smile:


Middle East Conflict - the idea that its religion is a force for conflict.

For feminist issues you could talk about recent partitions within mosques , which subordinates women and creates them to be seen as 'pollutants' and not pure.
- recent documentary on it.

Religious tensions between extremists muslims and the christians , left many churchs to be burned within egypt and i think around 200 were dead. You could state it was cultural defence in the muslims view.
Reply 84
Does anyone have the January 2012 question paper for AQA Unit 3?
Reply 85
Original post by Sana210693
Middle East Conflict - the idea that its religion is a force for conflict.

For feminist issues you could talk about recent partitions within mosques , which subordinates women and creates them to be seen as 'pollutants' and not pure.
- recent documentary on it.

Religious tensions between extremists muslims and the christians , left many churchs to be burned within egypt and i think around 200 were dead. You could state it was cultural defence in the muslims view.


Thanks, I completely forgot about the Middle East. Doh!
Reply 86
Original post by Chich1994
Secularisation: Woodhead and Heelas (2000) claimed that there are two types of theory relating to secularisation: differentiation and disappearance.

Bruce claims that secularisation is active in society, leading to his claim that religion has moved from the public to the private sphere. HOWEVER this can be challenged: this appears to be euro-centric, look at public displays of religion in USA. however this could well only be civil (Bellah, neo-functionalist)

Wilson claims that secularisation is the process whereby religious institutions lose power and influence over society. (i think...might wanna revise this bit)

Comte also claimed in the late 19th century that society goes through 3 stages: theological, metaphysical and positive. Link this to secularisation however argue cannot be applied on a universal scale etc.


Sorry, how does Comte saying that stuff about the metaphysical etc link to secularisation exactly? :s-smilie:
Original post by alexsasg
Does anyone have any contemporary examples of conflicts or something that can be mentioned in the exam? Nothing in the textbook is particularly modern! It'd be greatly appreciated :smile:


N Ireland, Ivory Coast and Syria :smile:
Reply 88
Original post by coolbeans101
N Ireland, Ivory Coast and Syria :smile:


I know that the conflict in N Ireland is between Catholics and Protestants, but what exactly is the conflict in Syria about? I don't really understand what's going on :L thanks for any help.
Reply 89
I need help with a past question please...
Assess the view that for minority ethnic groups the practice of religion and membership of religious groups is mainly a form of cultural defence. What kind of points would be for and against?


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Reply 90
Original post by alexsasg
I know that the conflict in N Ireland is between Catholics and Protestants, but what exactly is the conflict in Syria about? I don't really understand what's going on :L thanks for any help.


Syria is to do with the uprising forcing the president Assad to resign. However i think you could relate it to religion because he is from a sect of islam (not sure what it is called) however i think because hes from the community he may give goverment positions or key position to the people from his community.
This is leading to a sectarian civil war.

This is also relative within Iraq , its known that the difference between the Shi'a and Sunni Muslims has caused civil wars in the past.
Reply 91
Original post by Sana210693
Syria is to do with the uprising forcing the president Assad to resign. However i think you could relate it to religion because he is from a sect of islam (not sure what it is called) however i think because hes from the community he may give goverment positions or key position to the people from his community.
This is leading to a sectarian civil war.

This is also relative within Iraq , its known that the difference between the Shi'a and Sunni Muslims has caused civil wars in the past.


Ah okay, thanks :smile:
Reply 92
Original post by Maryam95
I need help with a past question please...
Assess the view that for minority ethnic groups the practice of religion and membership of religious groups is mainly a form of cultural defence. What kind of points would be for and against?


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Points for cultural defence
- Give an example of cultural defence for example in Iran - From the pro western regime to enforcing the islamic laws.
- In hostile enviroments like for example around the civil rights movement the church and religion was a vital form of cultural defence in order to cope with racism.- Bruce
-I think you could mention fundamentalism as a form of a resistant identity ( a defensive reaction when threatened and retreat into fundementalism) - Castell

Points against cultural defence

- Many ethnic individuals join religion because they are poor and oppressed so they may join for support and solidarity within a community
-Many ethnic individuals join religion for cultural transition
-Many ethnic miniorities join religion for their greater good for example in Hindism many individuals believe that religion has benefited their lifestyles and position within society.
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 93
Original post by alexsasg
Sorry, how does Comte saying that stuff about the metaphysical etc link to secularisation exactly? :s-smilie:



Well, the positive stage is characterised by the introduction of science and rational thought, and if it is to be believed that we are currently in this stage, then it can be linked to secularisation theories. So, basically, it links to Weber claiming that society would soon be subject to rational thought, leaving religion to erode as an institution.
Reply 94
Original post by Chich1994
Well, the positive stage is characterised by the introduction of science and rational thought, and if it is to be believed that we are currently in this stage, then it can be linked to secularisation theories. So, basically, it links to Weber claiming that society would soon be subject to rational thought, leaving religion to erode as an institution.


Oh, I see! Thanks :smile:
Reply 95
Original post by Sana210693
Points for cultural defence
- Give an example of cultural defence for example in Iran - From the pro western regime to enforcing the islamic laws.
- In hostile enviroments like for example around the civil rights movement the church and religion was a vital form of cultural defence in order to cope with racism.- Bruce
-I think you could mention fundamentalism as a form of a resistant identity ( a defensive reaction when threatened and retreat into fundementalism) - Castell

Points against cultural defence

- Many ethnic individuals join religion because they are poor and oppressed so they may join for support and solidarity within a community
-Many ethnic individuals join religion for cultural transition
-Many ethnic miniorities join religion for their greater good for example in Hindism many individuals believe that religion has benefited their lifestyles and position within society.


another point against: ethnic minorities continue to partake in religious activities due to the constraints of their religion, it may require daily focus etc.
Reply 96
btw this one of my forms of revision, so ignore any long ramblings :wink:
Reply 97
reasons why people may join cults, sects etc.

- can provide security in times of uncertainty.
- provides identity in fluid and dynamic society (Bauman)
- act as alternatives to traditional religion
- charismatic leader of sect draws members in
- socialisation into sects and cults through parents etc
Reply 98
Original post by Chich1994
btw this one of my forms of revision, so ignore any long ramblings :wink:


It's useful for the rest of us, so we're not complaining :tongue:
Reply 99
Berger claimed that NAMs act as a refuge in a secular society. This however points at the idea that secularisation must be referring to religion as a societal element that has been differentiated, rather than has disappeared.

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