the way of the world is changing
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the way of the world is changing
what do you think about the changes that are currently happening in the world? many countries in the west are struggling - think about the young people in greece and recently, spain.
what do you think about the occupy movement? a lot of people are fed up with the way things are. do you think things will change soon?
i think we've passed the tipping point. we are humans after all and we've put the importance of money before love, family and health for too long. we are beginning to realise that money does not make us happy.
as a young person, i think the best thing we can do is to keep an open mind and explore all the opportunities available to us. the worst thing we can do is to pigeon hole ourselves.
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Re: the way of the world is changingPeople at the moment are mainly complaining that they don't have much money, or that other people have too much money.(Original post by randomflag)
i think we've passed the tipping point. we are humans after all and we've put the importance of money before love, family and health for too long. we are beginning to realise that money does not make us happy.
In a recession, or bad times, people care about money even more.
It's only in the good times, when they feel that they have more money, that life suddenly becomes about more than just money. -
Re: the way of the world is changingWhat I do on TSR is sit on my backside whining. Occupy did do something, they orchestrated a large anti-capitalist protest that succeeded in raising awareness for their cause. What do you propose they do?(Original post by Infallible)
Occupy are a complete joke. All they do is sit on their backside whining about something or other.
If you want something, do something! Don't just sit down whining. -
Re: the way of the world is changingenter politics and see if they actually can change things if they are the 99% they claim to be....(Original post by Drapetomanic)
What I do on TSR is sit on my backside whining. Occupy did do something, they orchestrated a large anti-capitalist protest that succeeded in raising awareness for their cause. What do you propose they do? -
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Not surprising, the world is meant to be changed. Change is inevitable. it is rather the direction of change that people need to be concerned of rather than the change per se. That said discontent towards the current economical system is more likely to become serious at the right side of the Atlantic rather than the left, despite the Occupy movement.
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Re: the way of the world is changingHow exactly does an individual with little education working a 9-5 job for minimum wage enter politics? When they say 'we are the 99%' they are of course referring to their economic status, rather than their popularity or support. The best thing they can do is raise awareness until they have enough support for actual social change.(Original post by LiveFastDieYoung)
enter politics and see if they actually can change things if they are the 99% they claim to be.... -
Re: the way of the world is changinghe was referring to the occupy movement, you know the one that sits around messing up city centers and pretending it has a message beyond "OH NOEZ I HATE CAPITALISM".(Original post by Drapetomanic)
How exactly does an individual with little education working a 9-5 job for minimum wage enter politics? When they say 'we are the 99%' they are of course referring to their economic status, rather than their popularity or support. The best thing they can do is raise awareness until they have enough support for actual social change.
Those guys seem to have the time to do that, why not not, I don't know, set up a political party and start campaigning to see if they can attract the votes of the oppressed 99% they claim to represent?
At present they are campaigning for what reason? They claim there are no political parties which represent them, WELL GO MAKE ONE, thats what democracy is. if no one votes for you, tough cheese. -
Re: the way of the world is changingPerhaps they are. Still, raising awareness and drawing support for a cause is very necessary considering how far apart the occupy movement is from the mainstream political spectrum.(Original post by LiveFastDieYoung)
he was referring to the occupy movement, you know the one that sits around messing up city centers and pretending it has a message beyond "OH NOEZ I HATE CAPITALISM".
Those guys seem to have the time to do that, why not not, I don't know, set up a political party and start campaigning to see if they can attract the votes of the oppressed 99% they claim to represent?
At present they are campaigning for what reason? They claim there are no political parties which represent them, WELL GO MAKE ONE, thats what democracy is. if no one votes for you, tough cheese.
We wouldn't be having this discussion if a few people involved in the early days of occupy tried to form a political party because they wouldn't have gotten any media coverage and thus no support. -
Re: the way of the world is changingAhh, so young, so much faith in the democratic process.(Original post by LiveFastDieYoung)
enter politics and see if they actually can change things if they are the 99% they claim to be.... -
Re: the way of the world is changingMarxist and defeatist? Some contradiction, surely?(Original post by nicknick1)
The occupy type people sure as hell dont keep an open mind. They have a set view of the world which is basically marxist and defeatist. -
Re: the way of the world is changing
We need to phase out Type 0 thinking individuals and move towards a Type I world (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale ).
I propose we start by rejecting all religion. -
Re: the way of the world is changingCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't protesting and campaigning doing something?(Original post by Infallible)
Occupy are a complete joke. All they do is sit on their backside whining about something or other.
If you want something, do something! Don't just sit down whining. -
Re: the way of the world is changingThey were protesting about tax evasion in our bankrupt state and about working class taxpayers money being used to save international businesses from the laws of the market.(Original post by goape)
Occupy people were complaining about capitalists being capitalists LMAO
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Re: the way of the world is changingWhat?(Original post by RyanT)
They were protesting about tax evasion in our bankrupt state and about working class taxpayers money being used to save international businesses from the laws of the market.
Nothing to do with capitalism. -
Re: the way of the world is changingNo they aren't. In a proper capitalist state the banks would have been allowed to collapse.(Original post by goape)
Occupy people were complaining about capitalists being capitalists LMAO