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    London has more ****holes than the North.
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    (Original post by RyanT)
    No, there was a group of ~8 Muslim women who I always saw near the town center in Lancaster dressed head to toe in burkhas.

    I lived there for 3 years inc one year slap bang in the center of town, no point pretending that the north isn't infested with muslims, because it is. There is nothing English about the north of england, it's just new Pakistan. Enjoy.
    Doesn't sound like Lancaster at all, they may have been in Lancaster but they probably weren't from Lancaster.
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    (Original post by Artymess)
    The people up here are much more friendly - probably because we're united in our bitter resentment of the south

    It's certainly greyer, but I'd argue for the north over the south anyday. Southerners are just a bit soft - or rather, the ones I have met are.
    This pretty much sums up the view of the typical northerner: hates southerners for no particular reason.

    I'm guessing it's a bit of a chip on their shoulder?

    (Most southerners don't share this resentment)
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    (Original post by No Future)
    This pretty much sums up the view of the typical northerner: hates southerners for no particular reason.

    I'm guessing it's a bit of a chip on their shoulder?

    (Most southerners don't share this resentment)
    I'm a northerner of southern descent - I don't resent the south
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    (Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
    Doesn't sound like Lancaster at all, they may have been in Lancaster but they probably weren't from Lancaster.
    Except they were there week in, week out.

    To be fair to you, Lancaster is more English then many areas in the North. It's no coincidence that Galloway has won a seat in the North after winning one in east London. The north simply isn't English, no amount of spinning about your massive amounts of immigrants is going to change any of that. London isn't either.
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    Greggs sausage rolls get cheaper the further north you go.
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    The North's nicer. People are friendlier, part of it look a lot nicer too (Peak District, Lake District etc).

    I say this as a southerner.
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    (Original post by Aack)
    The further north you go, the more friendlier people generally are.

    That's about the only difference.
    This is so true. I thought people from Manchester were friendly; I went to stay in Newcastle for a couple of days a few months ago and I couldn't get over how lovely and smiley everyone was! (Although the accent does make everything seem friendlier so that could've been part of it...)
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    (Original post by RyanT)
    Except they were there week in, week out.

    To be fair to you, Lancaster is more English then many areas in the North. It's no coincidence that Galloway has won a seat in the North after winning one in east London. The north simply isn't English, no amount of spinning about your massive amounts of immigrants is going to change any of that. London isn't either.
    Bradford, Blackburn and inner-city Manchester are lost causes I agree, but Cumbria, Northumberland, North Yorkshire, Central and West Lancashire, Derbyshire and parts of Cheshire are as English as complaining about the weather.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    Has the North been abandoned by a succession of politicians more concerned with the money making potential of The Square Mile and the South?

    As as southerner I havn't ventured up north too often, but I get the impression that *some areas* suffer from a disproportionate amount of social deprivation, crime, poverty, failed multiculturalism, and welfarism.

    Is this viewpoint totally without merit?
    The North is great, some really nice cities/countryside and stuff to do Some areas do suffer the problems you listed, as do some Southern areas. I love the North though, particularly being a rugby league fan.
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    (Original post by No Future)
    Um, in many northern cities e.g. Manchester, Salford, Liverpool, Nottingham and Birmingham...
    Nottingham and Birmingham are in the Midlands.
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    (Original post by No Future)
    This pretty much sums up the view of the typical northerner: hates southerners for no particular reason.

    I'm guessing it's a bit of a chip on their shoulder?

    (Most southerners don't share this resentment)
    This pretty much sums up the typical southerner - cannot grasp sarcasm :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by jaxxa)
    Nottingham and Birmingham are in the Midlands.
    They're north of Watford Gap services which is the traditional point between north and south
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    (Original post by GiveMeAChallenge)
    There's hardly much of a difference between the weather in the north of england compared to the south...
    There is actually a noticeable difference in terms of sunshine and rainfall, particularly comparing the NE and NW to the SE (sunshine/rainfall respectively).
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    (Original post by GiveMeAChallenge)
    There's hardly much of a difference between the weather in the north of england compared to the south...
    Well... we're not in a drought at the moment
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    (Original post by Mufasaa)
    They're north of Watford Gap services which is the traditional point between north and south
    The midlands is a region in its own right, though. England isn't just north and south.
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    I'm from the Midlands (Birmingham), so we're basically slap bang in the middle. But as usually Midlands is the best!
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    (Original post by jaxxa)
    The midlands is a region in its own right, though. England isn't just north and south.
    It is a region, but it can be divided into north/south (basically every major town/city in the midlands is north other than Northampton (despite the name)).
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    Damn right it's grim up north, especially the immensely underfunded towns, but Manchester is still good when you weigh everything up - which is evidenced by the vast amount of Londoners/southerners working there.
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    (Original post by RyanT)
    The north is awful. These people don't realise how grey and grim the area is. When I was living in Lancaster it was so grey everyday it really bothered me. If you like the sunshine stay the hell away from the north! :P

    It's also about as English as Islamabad. Walking past people wearing burkhas, no thanks(!).
    pahahaha, you clearly took far too much notice of the horrible weather, the summer days are amazing, and you should have taken advantage of them and gone willy bobs or to heysham barrows

    you have generalised far to massivly here, and i genuinly got bored of your post. iv been brought up in lancaster my entire life, and last year moved to plymouth. and genuinly i prefer lancaster to plymouth.

    so much more friendly, and a nicer area to live i think.

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