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    (Original post by Stricof)
    What, the Libers gained a seat on us? :emo:[/RIGHT]
    Suck it, biatch!

    Good result for Socialists and Libers.

    Can anyone be bothered to check the seat differences.
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    (Original post by TheCrackInTime)
    More Libertarian MPs ftw. :awesome: :woo:
    *Moar :colonhash:
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Surely the deputy speaker should be impartial.
    I'd already raised that same issue in the past concerning TCIT...
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Surely the deputy speaker should be impartial.
    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    I'd already raised that same issue in the past concerning TCIT...
    Only when he's actually acting as speaker, surely?
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    If you're not prepared to resign then please do not call for our leader to resign if Labour come second in terms of votes / seats in the future. Thank you.
    I have not once said that David should resign under any circumstance!
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    It will be good to have a MRLP presence back in the House. It's a shame the old party folded.
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    (Original post by TopHat)
    Well done, incidentally. My prediction wasn't great apart from correctly predicting a strong Libertarian showing. I knew you guys would do well.
    Thanks I would rep you but I've run out
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    I believe that it is totally unwarranted for anyone to call for David's resignation, if you had of been following the VoNC thread you would of seen us explain repeatedly that none of this was David's fault. David took over and started to turn it around after we had to internally VoNC our previous leader. David was not the PM at the start of the term and I think he did a pretty good job towards the end of the last term and during the election.
    I'm not, I'm saying that had you also come second on top of the performance in the last parliament (the hypothetical situation you are confronting Rakas over) then it would have seemed logical, particularly from the outside. As it is, I eagerly await seeing how you handle coalition proposals and your performance in the next parliament, and wish you the best of luck as the party most likely closest to the views of the Socialists.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I have not once said that David should resign under any circumstance!
    You implied it however.
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    (Original post by cambo211)
    Only when he's actually acting as speaker, surely?
    I'd argue that he should remain impartial whether acting as Speaker or not because then it leads to accusations of favouritism while acting as Speaker if he shows favouritism while not acting as Speaker.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Surely the deputy speaker should be impartial.
    He's only required to be impartial when covering for me. When he's not presiding, he's free to engage in partisan politcs and vote.
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    (Original post by CLS94)
    I'm not, I'm saying that had you also come second on top of the performance in the last parliament (the hypothetical situation you are confronting Rakas over) then it would have seemed logical, particularly from the outside. As it is, I eagerly await seeing how you handle coalition proposals and your performance in the next parliament, and wish you the best of luck as the party most likely closest to the views of the Socialists.
    Oh right, sorry, I misread that a bit.

    Well we've got some fresh blood in and quite a few ideas so I'm pretty confident that Labour will have a much more active and productive term. Thanks.
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    Hey, campaigning's over. Let's settle down a bit, yeah? High spirits and all that, I know, but now we have to move on to the real part of the MHoC -the bills and motions.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    He's only required to be impartial when covering for me. When he's not presiding, he's free to engage in partisan politcs and vote.
    Yes, but it leads to problems like the ones mentioned in the post above your's.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    I'd argue that he should remain impartial whether acting as Speaker or not because then it leads to accusations of favouritism while acting as Speaker if he shows favouritism while not acting as Speaker.

    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    He's only required to be impartial when covering for me. When he's not presiding, he's free to engage in partisan politcs and vote.
    What toronto says ^.

    It doesn't matter what he's "required" to do in my opinion; he should stay impartial; it looks totally unprofessional for a start.
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    His resignation was only called for because he called for david's resignation should Labour come second in the general election. No one called for his resignation out of their own head.
    I have never called for anybody's resignation (the governments resignation in the VoNC but never any particular MP).

    Please show me this post?

    (Original post by CLS94)
    Congrats to Labour. However, I would like to add that, despite being a Socialist with no love what so ever for the Tories, I do not think that this result is representative of how they have performed of late in the MHoC. They have had impressive levels of activity under Rakas, who I also thought fought an impressive election campaign. I admire his abilities as a leader, and think the calls for his resignation are frankly ridiculous and to do so would be massively harmful to his party. Tonight's result, I believe, has been influenced very heavily by recent real life events and the disastrous and incompetent government in real life, which is reflected in the disappointing Conservative and, to an extent, Lib Dem vote, and unfortunately appears to have little relevance to what has occurred in the MHoC as shown by the fact that the Tories were widely predicted to win by MHoC members.

    On another note, I'm pleased with the Socialist vote and retaining 7 seats, a historically high level for us, and wish to thank all of our voters
    Thanks, congrats to you as well.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    I'd argue that he should remain impartial whether acting as Speaker or not because then it leads to accusations of favouritism while acting as Speaker if he shows favouritism while not acting as Speaker.
    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    What toronto says ^.

    It doesn't matter what he's "required" to do in my opinion; he should stay impartial; it looks totally unprofessional for a start.
    Why?

    Not to demean TCIT in any way but when he isn't acting as speaker he does basically **** all in the running of the house to warrant acting impartial. If someone runs and gets voted in as deputy speaker they're obviously an active and 'popular' member of the house and it'd be a shame to remove them from nearly all discussions because at some point he may have to step in and run the house for a small while.

    (Original post by TheCrackInTime)
    :hello:
    Sorry bro.
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    For those of you who want me to stand down as Leader of the TSR Liberal Democrats

    DREAM ON

    It's not gonna happen
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    Is this you still continuing to go on about how Morgsie is a proper right winger and is pulling the Lib Dems into the sharp rocks of conservatism?

    You need to get your facts right, I don't know why you see Morgsie and the Lib Dems as right wing but your rumours have got to stop.
    This is not about Morgsie, it's about the Lib Dems and Labour looking unfit to work together following events last term. The Lib Dems, like UKIP, are a centrist party - I've not seen much evidence of Labour appealing to the centre.

    (Original post by CLS94)
    UKIP aren't necessarily with the Libs and Conservatives here though, they are much more central than in real life. No guarantee any of those other partnerships would work either, or that the Lib Dems couldn't get involved. As always it's still up in the air, but Labour has a clear advantage due to the fact they have those crucial four seats more.
    I know that nothing is solid, but both parties seemed more closely alligned last term than any other. And there's always the real-life connection: people voting for UKIP on here will mostly be doing so under the impression that they are further right than they actually are, that's just an unfortunate thing.

    (Original post by toronto353)
    Socialists rarely, if ever, form coalitions. UKIP is considering all options at the moment and should any party leader PM myself, then I will put any coalition agreement to the party.
    Competent of you.
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    (Original post by cambo211)
    Why?

    Not to demean TCIT in any way but when he isn't acting as speaker he does basically **** all in the running of the house to warrant acting impartial. If someone runs and gets voted in as deputy speaker they're obviously an active and 'popular' member of the house and it'd be a shame to remove them from nearly all discussions because at some point he may have to step in and run the house for a small while.
    I assume that this comes down to personal opinion really. I just feel that it leaves him open to accusations of favouritism when he is Speaker, but it's swings and roundabouts. I see your point of view as well as my own, but I think that there are problems with both sides of the argument.

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