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  1. Morgsie's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    The TSR Liberal Democrats are Center Left whereas the RL Lib Dems are Center Right
  2. Mr Dangermouse's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    (Original post by prog2djent)
    Center-left if you think social policy is also included into the left-right. Simply fact, not, the Lib dems, like New-labour and the Tory's are a neo-liberal largely pro-capitalist party who are just slightly less authoritarian which IS social policy.

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    What I like about the 4 Axis compass is that, unlike most of the media and population, understand that left-right is largely economics and libt and authoritarian is social.

    If you could name me one single thing that would classify the lib dems as left wing on the whole, please do

    This isn't real life.


    UKIP are to the left of real life UKIP.


    The Conservatives are probably slightly right of the actual Tories.


    Both Labour and the Lib Dems are left of their real life counterparts.


    And the Socialists aren't as far left as actual socialism.
  3. Rakas21's Avatar
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    (Original post by prog2djent)
    Seriously? Don't know how you can equate UKIP = Centre

    Ideologically labour haven't been left wing since 1980 and clause 4 which I THINK is 78'.
    TSR HOC politics is different to RL.

    On TSR Labour are still very left and we are further right. On TSR the Liberal Democrats and UKIP are literally very close to the centre.

    All TSR parties are also much more liberal than their RL counterparts.

    TSR parties do not just enact RL policies.
  4. prog2djent's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    (Original post by Mr Dangermouse)
    This isn't real life.


    UKIP are to the left of real life UKIP.


    The Conservatives are probably slightly right of the actual Tories.


    Both Labour and the Lib Dems are left of their real life counterparts.


    And the Socialists aren't as far left as actual socialism.
    Are you not trying to represent real life in some way, or atleast stick to party ideology over pragmaticism or political change and 'norm' over time?

    I mean UKIP have gone more right as time as gone on, so I can see the reasons there, but really, centre ground?

    The tory ideology would be more right than the current tory govt, so yeah.

    Labour I can see why they are more left.

    But the lib dems were originally further right idelogically at the time of the social democrat+liberal party period, and the socialists really should be as far left as they are, surely not further right?
  5. Rakas21's Avatar
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    (Original post by prog2djent)
    Are you not trying to represent real life in some way, or atleast stick to party ideology over pragmaticism or political change and 'norm' over time?

    I mean UKIP have gone more right as time as gone on, so I can see the reasons there, but really, centre ground?

    The tory ideology would be more right than the current tory govt, so yeah.

    Labour I can see why they are more left.

    But the lib dems were originally further right idelogically at the time of the social democrat+liberal party period, and the socialists really should be as far left as they are, surely not further right?
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1733484

    The Mps will have changed so we will do it again but basically you see the Lib Dems only marginally left and UKIP centre.
  6. AAfc's Avatar
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    a very good day for UKIP
  7. tehFrance's Avatar
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1733484

    The Mps will have changed so we will do it again but basically you see the Lib Dems only marginally left and UKIP centre.
    Yes and the Conservatives at the time were raging liberals, that is just wrong if you ask me. Hopefully we have shifted further right in general as dear god :facepalm2:
  8. Dalek1099's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    Although Labour won they will have to form a coalition-TSR's voting system is actually slightly realistic and what's with the lack of seats there is 600 in a real election.
  9. Stricof's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    TSR's voting system is actually slightly realistic
    I'm confused. Did you mean to write unrealistic?

    First Past The Post wouldn't really work in Model elections such as these because there are no proper/set constituencies in the Model. Frankly speaking, the structure of FPTP is too complicated for this forum. Hence, Proportional Representation is probably the best way to hold an election in the MHoC
    and what's with the lack of seats there is 600 in a real election
    Actually, there are 650 Members of Parliament. There aren't that many seats here because of my previous statement, and frankly speaking, we wouldn't have the activity to justify 650 or so seats.
    Last edited by Stricof; 01-04-2012 at 05:49.
  10. MrBean11's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    I'm disappointed that the Lib Dems dropped one seat, but congratulations Labour.
  11. StatusRed's Avatar
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    (Original post by MrBean11)
    I'm disappointed that the Lib Dems dropped one seat, but congratulations Labour.
    Yeah it really is unfortunate. You guys didn't deserve to lose a seat, again RL opinions of the Lib Dems hit you guys really hard.
  12. MrBean11's Avatar
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    Yeah it really is unfortunate. You guys didn't deserve to lose a seat, again RL opinions of the Lib Dems hit you guys really hard.
    Apparently we received more of the popular vote since last election!
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    (Original post by Maddog Jones)
    Just one more time - is the Tory leader going to resign now with dignity, or will he wait to be thrown out by his party?
    Why would he resign? I believe I can speak for the rest of my party in saying that he enjoys our full backing, and I personally believe that he is the best leader we could have at this time, regardless of recent election results.

    Interesting insight into how labour would deal with a similar situation there though...
  14. jesusandtequila's Avatar
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    Hurrah, 8 seats and solidly TSR's 3rd party now. Fantastic result guys.
  15. MrBean11's Avatar
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    I take it your in the Libertarian Party?
  16. jesusandtequila's Avatar
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    (Original post by MrBean11)
    I take it your in the Libertarian Party?
    How'd you figure?
  17. Iron Lady's Avatar
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    Bah humbug.
  18. mevidek's Avatar
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    I must admit, I expected a better result for the Tories, but still, congratulations all
  19. barnetlad's Avatar
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    Re: Post Election results and discussion
    Thank you to those who are respecting my wishes not to be part of a coalition. I'm not going to join in the discussion as to whether the MRLP is left, right or centre ground, just start trying to form the TSR MRLP.
  20. DebatingGreg's Avatar
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Thank you to those who are respecting my wishes not to be part of a coalition. I'm not going to join in the discussion as to whether the MRLP is left, right or centre ground, just start trying to form the TSR MRLP.
    Good luck with it
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