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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useIf things are as bad as you say, then this is a mere drop in the ocean surely?(Original post by Stefan1991)
Because warrants are so hard to get hold of nowadays
takes them ages to get one printed off by the court clerk. Not like it has to be signed by an actual judge or anything anymore. What makes you think they'll bother getting warrants anyway when the information is right there in front of them?
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useAre you sure? You really think it's merely incompetence that causes them for some reason to want to erode all our civil liberties?(Original post by TheHistoryStudent)
While I don't think current government in this country is necessarily "bad/evil", it's when they bring in legislation like this that makes me question whether or not they're competant enough to actually run the country without overly interfering in people's lives.
It is obvious this has nothing to do with terrorism. People who say something against the government in their private facebook messages will be put on a database and blacklisted for jobs, university, loans, visas, entry, travelling abroad etc.
Not only do not enough people watch the news to even know it's happening, none of those who do care enough to actually do anything. I don't know whether the British people are in denial, or are genuinely just that stupid, but as the country is descending into fascism and it seems few people care enough to even notice. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useIf you think that the government, councils, quangos, intelligence services and private companies having unlimited access to every single citizen's private communications and recording what websites you visit for the purposes of scrutinising everything you do online and building a file on your personal habits is insignificant, then that is deeply worrying.(Original post by Barden)
If things are as bad as you say, then this is a mere drop in the ocean surely?
However I do think it's representative of the complacency of the British people. There will come a point where it'll be too late to do anything about it, and we'll be wondering why nothing more was done sooner.
We no longer have the right to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, right to privacy, freedom from surveillance, freedom to peaceful protest outside Parliament, right to be innocent until proven guilty, power to confine innocent people to house arrest, and a power to extradite people on charges without evidence etc etc.
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useYou got that from the BBC comments section on the article.(Original post by HARRY PUTAH)
oh yeah?
Lets look at the bill for this shall we...
Data centre 1
- God knows how many TB storage
- Employees and site managers who are responsible for the operation of this centre
- Runs on a backbone available to tier 2 ISPs
- Requires expensive construction of the building itself
- These include land taxes etc
- It will involve private and public companies (BIG MISTAKE)
- Private companies know how to milk the government purse
In short, you are looking at a lot of money and this is just ONE data centre in an average size city and I doubt even that will be enough to store/handle the data for more than 200,000 people.
Then you have the Data Protection Act which still exists believe it or not! -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useTake to the streets. You think last summer was bad? Think again coalition.
It's not like I have anything to hide, but I think taking away civil liberty for the masses for the sake of a few is so, so stupid.
This is from a supporter, until recently. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useI did?(Original post by Kiss)
You got that from the BBC comments section on the article.
last time I checked I used my own knowledge and not some BBC article. You tit. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useSo you would be okay with someone opening post you send/receive? Would you be okay if they put microphones in your house? Or sending people round to your house to follow you around and make notes?(Original post by EKR93)
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
Got more important things to be worrying about than some random MP reading through my emails tbh.
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useEmails, online usage is quite different to physically following you around all day. I don't obsess over my computer like some people do.(Original post by moya)
So you would be okay with someone opening post you send/receive? Would you be okay if they put microphones in your house? Or sending people round to your house to follow you around and make notes?
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
Not that bothered about someone opening my post though, I don't get anything juicy. It does make me laugh when people get all outraged that people could see what they're up to as though their lives are uber interesting or something. You're just another person in a long line, you're not going to be fascinating unless you're a threat. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useSuch a pathetic stance.(Original post by EKR93)
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
Got more important things to be worrying about than some random MP reading through my emails tbh.
We are meant to have the right to privacy. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useExcept people post their lives on the likes of Facebook and Google monitor quite a lot of what you're doing anyway. Yeah, we so have the "right" to privacy don't we.(Original post by original_username)
Such a pathetic stance.
We are meant to have the right to privacy.
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useWe do.(Original post by EKR93)
Except people post their lives on the likes of Facebook and Google monitor quite a lot of what you're doing anyway. Yeah, we so have the "right" to privacy don't we.
People choose to post what they want on facebook, and control who see's their posts. Others don't post anything on facebook.
Google gather information to target ads at you and you have to agree to their privacy agreement anyway, you can also change google so that it doesn't gather the information on you. Choice again
I don't remember being consulted about this bill. But then again I don't remember choosing this crappy coalition either. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web usePeople have the right to voice their own opinions too, it doesn't make them pathetic. If they genuinely aren't concerned with this, that's their business and there's nothing wrong with them disagreeing with you to be fair. I don't support this bill at all though, I don't see how it is necessary.(Original post by original_username)
Such a pathetic stance.
We are meant to have the right to privacy.Last edited by SpicyStrawberry; 01-04-2012 at 19:58. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useHad considered that, but not surprised if it is real with the way things are going.(Original post by TheHistoryStudent)
Wait... this isn't some really really bad April Fools prank by the BBC is it?... -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web useSo in the same sense I can voice my opinion on how pathetic their stance/ argument is. Maybe weak would have been a better word to use, I wasn't calling the poster pathetic, just their view point on this topic(Original post by SpicyStrawberry)
People have the right to voice their own opinions too, it doesn't make them pathetic. If they genuinely aren't concerned with this, that's their business and there's nothing wrong with them disagreeing with you to be fair. I don't support this bill at all though, I don't see how it is necessary.
And you're right, it's totally unnecessary. The 'threats' that we keep hearing about seem to be being monitored effectively as it is. -
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Re: Government to monitor your emails, texts and web usethis is a ridiculous invasion of privacy.There is not much seriously wrong most people do on the internet and it is not fair that their private chats and things the government shouldn't have the right to see,are going to be forced to be given to the government to check through.I agree that this should be allowed for people under suspicion so that virus abusers can be caught and prosecuted.
