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    (Original post by original_username)
    So in the same sense I can voice my opinion on how pathetic their stance/ argument is. Maybe weak would have been a better word to use, I wasn't calling the poster pathetic, just their view point on this topic

    And you're right, it's totally unnecessary. The 'threats' that we keep hearing about seem to be being monitored effectively as it is.
    Exactly, I thought they already could monitor potential threats so I don't see why they need to do the same to ordinary people going about their business. Just another excuse to snoop.
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    (Original post by EKR93)
    Emails, online usage is quite different to physically following you around all day. I don't obsess over my computer like some people do.

    Not that bothered about someone opening my post though, I don't get anything juicy. It does make me laugh when people get all outraged that people could see what they're up to as though their lives are uber interesting or something. You're just another person in a long line, you're not going to be fascinating unless you're a threat.
    It's no different. Sending an email to someone is the transfer of information from 1 person to another, this is no different than talking to somebody, and they don't put up microphones everywhere.

    I should be able to send an email to someone and controlling who sees it, in the same way I can invite someone to my house (or meet them in a public place) and speak to them in person without anyone else being there.

    And this 'counter terrorism' thing is just a load of crap. You think terrorists are going to be sending emails in gmail and msging on facebook? If they are smart enough to make a bomb they are smart enough to get round the internet silently.
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    I fail to see the problem with all this. It will only help stop crime and terrorism. No-one in the government gives a flying **** about you watching porn or anything. I have nothing to hide, I presume you don't either.
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    (Original post by spocckka)
    I fail to see the problem with all this. It will only help stop crime and terrorism. No-one in the government gives a flying **** about you watching porn or anything. I have nothing to hide, I presume you don't either.
    How will it help crime and terrorism? Terrorists are smart enough to hide their footprints on the internets.
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    (Original post by spocckka)
    I fail to see the problem with all this. It will only help stop crime and terrorism. No-one in the government gives a flying **** about you watching porn or anything. I have nothing to hide, I presume you don't either.
    How many terrorist attacks have their been in the UK since 7/7?

    I'd rather the money and resources it will take to store worthless information which wont see the light of day be spent on something that actually helps stop real crime and real threats.
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    (Original post by EKR93)
    Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

    Got more important things to be worrying about than some random MP reading through my emails tbh.
    Do you have curtains in your house? Can I see your bank account details?
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    (Original post by moya)
    How will it help crime and terrorism? Terrorists are smart enough to hide their footprints on the internets.
    Not true, they all call each other by their full names and crack out some awesome Talibanter on facebook chat.
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    (Original post by original_username)
    How many terrorist attacks have their been in the UK since 7/7?

    I'd rather the money and resources it will take to store worthless information which wont see the light of day be spent on something that actually helps stop real crime and real threats.
    A good point i doubt monitoring the internet will help solve many crimes because the criminals don't leave footprints and the amount of data would be off this world if they were to monitor email and texts for 60 million people-it should cost billions and unless the public really wants it and i doubt many people would then the government shouldn't be allowed to waste money-especially in this economic climate.
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    A good point i doubt monitoring the internet will help solve many crimes because the criminals don't leave footprints and the amount of data would be off this world if they were to monitor email and texts for 60 million people-it should cost billions and unless the public really wants it and i doubt many people would then the government shouldn't be allowed to waste money-especially in this economic climate.
    Yes. Why not spend all these billions on putting down fibre optics everywhere!

    No, because that might BENEFIT society. We don't want that. We want 'freedom'.
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    I really, really hope this is a joke. It's scary. This isn't North Korea!
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    Wouldn't it make more sense to monitor emails sent to someone who is thought of as a criminal rather than monitor everyone...? or "criminal activity" sites? they'd also need a warrant or it'd be an invasion of privacy and i'm pretty sure this method is more efficient than just monitoring EVERYTHING.
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    So the government is taking over from News International?
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    (Original post by Rainingshame)
    Wouldn't it make more sense to monitor emails sent to someone who is thought of as a criminal rather than monitor everyone...? or "criminal activity" sites? they'd also need a warrant or it'd be an invasion of privacy and i'm pretty sure this method is more efficient than just monitoring EVERYTHING.
    the point is that they will change the law so they don't need a warrant
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    this is a ridiculous invasion of privacy.There is not much seriously wrong most people do on the internet and it is not fair that their private chats and things the government shouldn't have the right to see,are going to be forced to be given to the government to check through.I agree that this should be allowed for people under suspicion so that virus abusers can be caught and prosecuted.
    It wouldn't affect anyone who wasn't suspected of committing a crime though.
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    Hey govt. **** off my internet. And texts. And emails.

    Think we should all just refresh the same web site thousands of times over ever day with the URL of FreedomOrGTFO.com. They should get the message.
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    (Original post by ~Justin~)
    So the government is taking over from News International?
    You make a good point (though sarcastic obviously).

    Facebook and other internet groups already monitor things like this - I'd rather the government was in on it as well. The only people who need to worry are terrorists.
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    Hey govt. **** off my internet. And texts. And emails.

    Think we should all just refresh the same web site thousands of times over ever day with the URL of FreedomOrGTFO.com. They should get the message.
    Are you a terrorist or a criminal? If not they wouldn't give a crap about your internet activity.
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    This is one of the most terrible things that I have read, are there any planned protests for this?

    This needs to be stopped, I hope the British public are not apathetic and stupid about this.
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    (Original post by SloeJim)
    You make a good point (though sarcastic obviously).

    Facebook and other internet groups already monitor things like this - I'd rather the government was in on it as well. The only people who need to worry are terrorists.
    Agreed. If you've got nothing to hide than you shouldn't be worried.
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    (Original post by ~Justin~)
    Agreed. If you've got nothing to hide than you shouldn't be worried.
    Are you an idiot? This allows the government, without the consent of a magistrate, to look at hugely personal information such as personal emails - and is currently only in place in deeply unpleasant regimes like in Iran and China. DO WE get to read all the emails Cameron and Clegg send? will we get to personally monitor the communications of MI5 and 6? What next, can you not see the gradual erosion of civil liberties in the United Kingdom (and across the Western World?), I can, and it is deeply disturbing. This monitoring is exactly what the free West used to criticise communist countries for - GCHQ will now be our version of the Stasi. Even now "thoughtcrime" is punished more enthusiastically than a lot of real crime. The Tories, Labour and Lib Dems have all supported this in the last few years. What does this say about democracy in Britain?

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