I would also like to make a comment about the World Cup debate.
People can say all they want about the World Cup not being as high standard as the Champion's League, but the fact of the matter is that the World Cup will always be the greatest stage.
With the World Cup you have to play in a team, against teams and in stadiums (even countries) that are quite unfamiliar to you with respect to club football. You are put out of your 'comfort-zone' to to speak, you require a different sort of temperment to that which is required to play at the Camp Nou in a CL quarter final, for example. There is also the small matter of having the pressure of your home country weighing upon your shoulders.
People give examples of players like Kleberson winning the World Cup and to be honest it is a rather tiresome arguement. Kleberson won't have the pressure that players like Ronaldo and Messi will have; who carry with them any hopes of international silverware for their respective nations.
Transcending that club form, mentality and bottle into the international stage and playing a key role in your country's success is what will make you one of the best of all time. Sure, people can claim Messi to be the best of all time, but if (and this is a big if) he fails to win the world cup, this claim will never be indubitable, there will always be doubt.
The fact of the matter is that we will never know; we didn't record every one of Pele's matches back in the day and therefore we cannot confirm the genius that anecdote tells us about, unlike Messi where every bit of skill can be dissected and foamed over. And this is the main reason why you hear World Cups being used to differentiate between the best. My opinion? Well, Pele won 3 World Cups spanning 12 years - I don't think it will be done again.
Last edited by pgreg1; 01-04-2012 at 23:55.
And let's face it, Argentina aren't exactly short on talent, are they? Tevez, Aguero, Di Maria, Mascherano, Banega, Higuain ...
Look at Portugal, Ronaldo is the only stand out player really, some good players but no way near Argentina's class.
To the person above, it's quite funny how you mentioned Ronaldo's penalty miss in the CL final when he scored in that game.
Last edited by pgreg1; 02-04-2012 at 00:17.