London 'Blackspeak' and 'Black' Grime/Rap Music

I wouldn't call the word "wastegash" harmless tbh.

Many Black, Asian and White teenagers**

Why do you care? No-one is forcing it upon you

It is tantamount to any word for an undesirable female. Is the entire English language harmful because words like 'bitch' or '[word beginning with 'c']' are applied to females?

I've yet to be mugged; therefore, muggers don't exist. Go to Glasgow, Manchester or Liverpool where there are equivalent crime rates amongst coetaneous persons. If you are mugged by somebody with a strong, locally-concentrated accent, are all persons who possess that accent criminals?

Marked by your disdain of people who speak with this accent, I am certain you do not know even close to 'most' of them to make any valid assertion that they were once criminals. Do not use assumptions to prove your point.

You too are a criminal by the act of purchasing a controlled substance, yet do not speak using slang.

An unsubstantiated feeling that is based solely on a prejudice. The overwhelming majority of colleges in inner-city London will have substantial numbers of people who speak using London slang; however, most of these people do not progress into criminals. If you can present evidence of causality, do so.

hm.. if the vast majority of violent criminals in that area have that particular accent, and it is separate to the naturally occurring dialect of the area, yeah, it indicates criminality.

Amongst teenagers in inner-city London, this accent/dialect is salient, yet most teenagers in inner-city London are not criminals.

Okay. Most other schools will tell you a different story.

You're a criminal.

Most colleges are not like your college. Based on your portrayal of your educational history, and the fact that you are attending such an oh so abhorrent university with all of those horrible, slang-speaking, criminal ethnic minorities, it sounds like you're not too intelligent yourself. Don't try to put yourself on some academic pedestal when you're just as smart as everyone else who attended/attends your school/college.

Creating a creole in London really doesn't benefit those who speak it. I often quite literally cannot understand people that talk like this, whatever ethnic box they tick.

If I can't, and I grew up in London, do you really think that people at job interviews etc would? And that they would choose someone that speaks London creole rather than someone that speaks coherent English?

England is a developed country, not a developing country, I think what you're trying to say is that it's inevitable that the English language is going to change over the years as a result of immigration and a change in culture...the day when we hear Prime Ministers say "innit" and find the word "gyaldem" in the Oxford Dictionary

Nobody's enforcing how one speaks, but those who talk in slang are frowned upon by people who don't understand what they're talking about, also it doesn't give a good impression of somebody, as slang is usually associated with street gangsters and troublesome youth.

However, I do occasionally talk in slang with friends, but I understand why people would frown upon me and my friends for doing so, and I accept that, and I share their concerns despite doing it myself.

Well, everybody conforms to something, people who talk in slang conform to the characteristics of their peers, likewise with people who talk formally, they conform with the rest of society.

Not in inner cities.

Most teenagers in inner-city London are not criminals.

I can assure you that most schools do not have 'riots' where the majority of the class are contributors to the disorder. Perhaps in the bottom-set where the unintelligent reside there would be frequent disruption to the lesson... were you in the bottom-set, or did your school not have a stratified system?

I meant college. Why did you go to this college if it was so bad? Did you not go to any open days?

Learn what an ad hominem is. I have not attacked your fundamental argument by referring to your qualities, so it is not an ad hominem; if I said, "you're wrong because [insert impertinent personal quality here]", it would be.

The college? No , btec students and a level students were in the same classes.

What reason do you have to believe most of them will be criminals? How they act around their friends is not indicative of how they act elsewhere. Do you have the same mannerisms around your grandmother, your good friends, and at an interview?

In the whole of London, with its multitude of transport options, you could only find one college?

I saw most of them doing aggressive, violent things like fighting amongst each other, attacking teachers, throwing chairs, etc etc. Doesn't really matter if they're lovely chaps in front of their granny.

It indicates their deportment varies by situation and completely invalidates your assertions that it indicates their intelligence or propensity to commit criminal acts.

I'm sorry but that makes no sense whatsoever. Witnessing them committing criminal acts does indeed indicate their propensity to commit criminal acts. lol.

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