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  1. Pindar's Avatar
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
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    Mental Illness obviously...
    :facepalm:

    And what do you think causes mental illness?
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    atleast we don't have to mention the persons race.

    dont worry people, you can put your tissues away.

    no mental spasms or intimidation on this one.
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by Welsh Leprecaun)
    Why is a 14-year old watching Saw?
    Ermm a lot of them do?
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by Stefan1991)
    :facepalm:

    And what do you think causes mental illness?
    Like you said it can be environmental, genetic or socially triggered. So you're claim that it must be a bad upbringing from his mother is ignorant when their is no evidence of such things.

    Out of interest how would you punish the boy?
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    Execute the sicko.
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by Dobermory)
    Execute the sicko.
    Did he do bad things to your mum pal?
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    Like you said it can be environmental, genetic or socially triggered. So you're claim that it must be a bad upbringing from his mother is ignorant when their is no evidence of such things.

    Out of interest how would you punish the boy?
    I'm not saying it *must* have been a bad upbringing from the mother, i'm saying it must be an environmental factor. Which could possibly mean a bad upbringing from the mother.

    Can you control the environmental, genetic or social factors which impacted on your development as a child? Thought not. So why should you be blamed for it?

    You are seriously saying we should condemn and punish the mentally ill for what their illness causes them to do?

    Why are you so obsessed with punishment? What good consequence would come out of punishing the boy?
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by Stefan1991)
    I'm not saying it *must* have been a bad upbringing from the mother, i'm saying it must be an environmental factor. Which could possibly mean a bad upbringing from the mother.

    Can you control the environmental, genetic or social factors which impacted on your development as a child? Thought not. So why should you be blamed for it?

    You are seriously saying we should condemn and punish the mentally ill for what their illness causes them to do?

    Why are you so obsessed with punishment? What good consequence would come out of punishing the boy?
    "What good consequence would come out of punishing the boy?" ehm stopping him from killing again perhaps?
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    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    "What good consequence would come out of punishing the boy?" ehm stopping him from killing again perhaps?
    You're getting confused between "punishment" and "rehabilitation". They are not the same thing.
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/danielab1702
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17590002

    There is something very fishy about this. His YouTube account says he was hacked and some of the evidence that the BBC say was used against him was found on his computer.

    He may be innocent.
    Last edited by The_Last_Melon; 10-05-2012 at 20:45.
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    Pretty sure they're alluding to the story he wrote about murdering someone, with the main character sharing his name..... Now that's fishy :rofl3:

    Also he says his account was hacked in 2009, way before any weird stuff was uploaded. Even so... the kid seems legit, I'll support you all the way in this!!

    Edit: Just seen the linked vid, love how they make him sound normal as he'd mown the lawn that day, seeing as it's only about 3 sq.ft lol
    Last edited by Lamps08; 10-05-2012 at 17:00.
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by Lamps08)
    Pretty sure they're alluding to the story he wrote about murdering someone, with the main character sharing his name..... Now that's fishy :rofl3:

    Also he says his account was hacked in 2009, way before any weird stuff was uploaded. Even so... the kid seems legit, I'll support you all the way in this!!

    Edit: Just seen the linked vid, love how they make him sound normal as he'd mown the lawn that day, seeing as it's only about 3 sq.ft lol
    Maybe he didn't even write it. Maybe it was planted on his computer by someone who planned this out.
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by The_Last_Melon)
    Maybe he didn't even write it. Maybe it was planted on his computer by someone who planned this out.
    I would love to blame that Paedophiillic(?) looking Uncle of his, but the kids only gone and admitted Manslaughter hasn't he :rolleyes:
    Last edited by Lamps08; 10-05-2012 at 18:50.
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    I would love to blame that Paedophiillic(?) looking Uncle of his, but the kids only gone and admitted Manslaughter hasn't he :rolleyes:
    It is common for people to confess to crimes they haven't committed due to poor interrogation technique. It's all a matter of interpretation. I think the story is too farfetched. Same goes for Ian Huntley (but then I read that off wikipedia)
    Last edited by The_Last_Melon; 10-05-2012 at 19:37.
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    (Original post by Miracle Day)
    Oh sorry, the BBC news said he was obsessed with horror films, and obsessed with the Corrination Street plot. He wrote scripts based on the plot etc.

    Yes, I know this. I'm just saying, perhaps violence inspires others to commit violence.
    Certainly. One of my friends told me that on one of his darkest days when he was about 12, he watched a number of school massacre movies and it gave him a lot of ideas - the only thing stopping him was that he lived in England and guns were hard (a hassle) to get! :lol:

    The motion picture, although for our 'entertainment' is actually quite dangerous. The brains of young children are vulnerable to such things. Having said that, children can still be self-controlled, even in the face of violence (although, many kids may watch movies about murder but whilst not committing murder, may take part in small acts of violence towards peers) and it is only a small minority who go out and actually commit such acts.
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by The_Last_Melon)
    It is common for people to confess to crimes they haven't committed due to poor interrogation technique. It's all a matter of interpretation. I think the story is too farfetched. Same goes for Ian Huntley (but then I read that off wikipedia)
    Fair enough. In that case let's set up a ''Free D.Bartlam'' Page, get a petition going, the lot! We could be heroes
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    yh actually comparing muslim people asian people indian people it is guranteed they respect thier parents way more then western ppl that is a fact....look at old peoples home old filled with white people i see rarely any asian parents in there
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    Wait, can a 14 year old really be sentenced to prison?
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by FrigidSymphony)
    Wait, can a 14 year old really be sentenced to prison?
    i think the age of criminal liability is 10years old in england so yes but its more likely the little whacko will get put in an asylum or possibly corrective care.
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    Re: 14 year old murders his mother
    (Original post by cl_steele)
    i think the age of criminal liability is 10years old in england so yes but its more likely the little whacko will get put in an asylum or possibly corrective care.
    10? That's mad. If that's the case, 10 year olds should also be able to drive, drink, buy and consume pornography and drugs, have children, or buy contraceptives. I mean, if we can punish them for not being responsible enough, surely we're implying they have responsibilities, no?
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